Aww pink lady I am sending good vibes your way and I hope that things work out for you!!!!! Everyone here is routing for you!

old saying: nothing ventured...nothing gained.
in cob land, i'd say throw your name out and see what happens. you are under control and can always say no.

The system does have its good and its bad. Quota IS only 40.(back in my day it used to be 53...) if houses keep inviting back tons and tons of girls back, some of those girls are being set up for dissapointment in the long run. Say house XYZ is one of the top sororities on campus. If houses invited 75%+ girls back each time they'll end up at prefs with around 200 girls who really really really want to be a part of that house. in a sense, it is unfair to have 200 girls come back for preference parties when there are only 40 slots. So the girls in those houses may be unhappy with the system but they would have had to make those cuts eventually. The girls in houses rank the girls they want the most and those are the ones who they keep for each party and regardless of the system, those are the ones who still would have been the ones to get in in the long run.

one of my good friends in Kappa said that she heard alot of unhappy rushees who got cut from her house & she also agrees with me that its better that they knew early on. She also said while the girl might think she belonged there, if the house cut her, it was for a reason coz each house only really wants the girls who'll belong the most.

Lisa, if any of the houses you wanted earlier has COB, you'll definetely be able to go back. Its hard to show the girls during parties short as Mixers & 2nds what you have to offer. With how crazy formal rush is, it could have also been a system mistake. One of my friends last year ranked a house as her top choice, she was also on thier bid list, but the computer messed up and she got her 2nd choice house which turned out wrong for her and she ended up depledging in the long run and re rushing this year. Also, COBs are usually WAYY laid back and if you have a friend in the house, you'll definetely get royal treatment.

Don't give up coz something good will definetely come from this. Last year, 50% of the sororities didn't make quota (which some of them would rather die than ever admit), plus alot of the bigger houses have girls depledge so then those houses are allowed to COB girls to 'replace' the girls who dropped. Also, alot of the 'popular' houses have high deactivation rates and up to 25% of each pledge class either deactivates or depledges by the following year. (Nice huh? the things you never get told...)

Contact the Office of Greek Life today and find out for sure which houses will be holding informal rush and definetely ask your friends in houses too. not only that, just really think about where you felt the girls were most like you and go from there. if the OGL doesn't know of houses other than the 2 previously mentioned, email the rush chairs or your friends in the houses you did want coz they'll be able to tell you if they are or are not having COB.

Lisa

I just asked my rush chair and she said that there are acutally quite a few houses doing COB/snap bids. Apparently 50 girls dropped AFTER prefs & girls don't always accept thier bids. So find out ASAP what you can do!

HOPING everything works out!!!

I called the OGL and asked about COB but since today is bid day they said they wont know until tomorrow, so i'll call back and see whats what.

Good for you :) Something will work out. I would also email all your friends or something asap coz sometimes the OGL may not have all the top news right away.

Please explain to me what is happening to the rushee's. Does it apply to all the rushees, or just the ones who decide they are too good for certain houses?

DeltaBetaBaby! I sure hope you weren't directing that at pinklady! From the things she posted during her rush, she seemed to be trying to have an open mind. She kept saying things like, 'the girls are nice, but just not for me' and she even gave a bunch a 'second chance' because she thought it wise, so if after third round, when she's seen a lot of the girls, if she's uncomfortable accepting a bid from certain houses, that's her perogative. I think it has nothing to do with thinking she's "too good" for a certain house! Besides, by dropping before Pref, she might be opening a slot for a PNM whose heart is set on one of those houses and will become the next "super member"!


Regardless, though, that seems like an uncharasteristic comment from you...:(

I personally didn't think this was an overly nice comment, since we're discussing comments. pinklady23, I sincerely hope that you will overlook "reputations" because many many times, they are wrong. The house that is considered the "dorky" sorority at Marquette is far and away my favorite and definitely the one I would have joined if I had rushed here.

I was definitely not trying to be mean about any of the houses. Like i said i know some girls in "gray" and one of my very best high school friends pref'ed gray (im not sure where she ended up because bid day is taking place right now). i think i was being truthful in all my descriptions, i said its true they dont have a good reputation but the girls were nice. never did i say "oh my god i cant believe i have to go here its terrible" becuase those were NOT my feelings at all. (and the fact that i thought they didn't put on a great rush, thats all subjective, someone else might have thought they put on a great rush and felt immediately at home etc but that just wasn't the case for me personally.)

There is also a differene between thinking youre too good for a house and thinking that the girls just aren't clicking with you. If you can look back at your expereince and say "i didnt get my first choice, i got my second but looking back i realized it was right and that my first choice house wouldnt have been good", its basically the same thing of saying wow these girls are a fit for me, and another house just wasnt as great a fit, which is basically what i said about the houses, that they werent a great fit.

That's fine, but don't blame the system because your rush didn't work out.

There is a thread about this elsewhere...maybe someone from UM's system can tell us whether "cut once, cut again" is truly a written down Panhellenic rule or something that might only be a "tradition" that isn't strictly enforced. Because nationally, this does not apply.

Ladies!

Pinklady was kind enough to share her views of rush with us, post after each party, and ask our opinions. With everything that's been said, I'm sure she understands what happened and all - she even had a legacy house where she didn't feel comfortable. Isn't that what we always preach? Give everyone a second & third chance, but if you're not comfortable, then find the house where you are comfortable?

I admit that I'm disappointed that an ADPi legacy wasn't comfortable with the UM chapter, but it happens! In fact, it happened to me, so I'd be the last to point fingers!

Maybe y'all don't see how mean-spirited this thread is becoming. If Pinklady (as a PNM) said something that came out wrong, I can be much more forgiving than those of us who are already IN our house of choice.

She's asked for our help. Let's be ladies as we advise her.

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I just want to assure you that the computer NEVER messes up. I was the computer chair for panhellenic at my school last year, and believe me, it's always 100% accurate. The matches are based on mutual selection. At my school, girls will tell a house that really wanted her that she wanted them, just to make them feel better. Girls in houses can do this to rushees as well. Last year we had several people claiming computer errors, so they came in and demanded for us to look at the bid sheets and the bid card again. And 10 times out of 10, it was clear that it was not the computer who errored. I just had to tell you that, because that's one of the biggest misconceptions about computer rush, and it can often be the scapgoat for problems. Have faith in the computer though, cause it's never the real issue. If you still doubt the computer, go into the Greek Life office and ask them to check it out. They will help clear things up for you.