Indeed.

Most of us have cyber-grown up together. LOL. You should have read us 1 year - 10 years ago. Or see us when we're feeling less interesting and more ass whooping.

LOL I looked at some of the old threads, and some of the topics were interesting "reads". I wish I would have known about this site back then. Folks on here have some really interesting opinions.

HAHA.

More ass whooping = recruitment troll threads, lately.

It is this phenomenon that never ceases to amaze me, especially when they assume that I agree with them solely because I am white.

There was a propaganda effort by the defeated South after the end of the Civil War. It emphasized the noble, ideological reasons for the war ("State's rights") and downplayed the role of slavery. It also made heroes out of people who should have been hung as war criminals. (Nathan Bedford Forrest, I'm lookin' at you.) That propaganda has a tremendous amount of influence on the way the narrative about the war is constructed today.

:mad: I just wrote this really long response based on our local history here...but apparently the cord came out (yeah, I'm old school like that) and I got knocked offline, so it has now disappeared into cyberspace. Guess I'll try again tomorrow (after I get a wireless router, LOL!)

Yesterday on the back window of a truck outside a Target in Washington was a giant, more than a meter wide "Confederate Flag" decal with the text "Bad Ass Girls Drive Bad Ass Toys" above and below it.

Washington didn't even gain statehood until more than 30 years after the end of the Civil War, so it looks even more out of place.

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Guess which flag was flying on those ships?

The American flag.

Not the Confederacy. I believe the Confederacy banned the importation of slaves with the ratification of the CSA's constitution.

For the record, I fly the Bonnie Blue. It exhibits Southern Pride to those who love the South and looks like part of the Texas flag to those who have no knowledge of history.

Thank you! I learned something new today.

The legal importation of slaves into the United States of America was banned January 1, 1808 (voted on in 1807), it is found in this little known document called The Constitution, in the same section as some habeas corpus nonsense. People got kind of nervous after the French had some issues in Haiti, Britain had also banned the Atlantic Slave Trade in 1807, but still had slavery until 1834 (Act was in 1833) excluding anything owned/run by the East India Company and what is now Sri Lanka. Spain abolished slavery in 1811, except in Cuba, the now Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico, which didn't happen until the 1880s or during and after the Civil War.


The real importation of slaves didn't stop until later, with the last known ship smuggling people in being the Clotilde in 1859 that brought slaves from Africa to Mobile, Alabama. http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/question/july05/ Slaves were still brought in through New Orleans and Texas (Jean Lafitte) and with both Spain and France still allowing their colonies in the New World to have slavery it is not impossible to believe that people were smuggled between 1808 and 1859. To move those who were born in country when all slave states were concentrated in the Southern part of the United States boats were often used and it wouldn't be unimaginable that people were picked up along the way to a larger port like New Orleans

What I find more interesting about your Bonnie Blue is you associate it with Texas, but the areas it originally represented in 1810 didn't include Texas. I also find it amusing the guy who wrote the song associated with the flag was Irish born and I can't readily find much information about him, which is odd for something so important in relation to this flag controversy.

^^^ I don't think he associated the Bonnie Blue flag with it flying over TX, more so commenting how TX used it as an inspiration when creating their state flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_Flag



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The most interesting thing about these types of discussions has been said before, which is that slavery, discrimination, and other forms of social exclusion were (and still are) not relegated to the south, a particular flag, or to a particular political party.

Yeah, I went to that site to find out more information.

The way EW said what he said piqued my curiosity so I decided to look it up. ;)

The Republic of West Florida represents!

Speaking of West Florida, Pensacola, Florida calls itself "The City of Five Flags," representing the five countries that it belonged to at one point: Spain, France, Britain, USA, and the CSA. For as long as I can remember, the Confederate battle flag was used. About 10 or so years ago, a movement started to remove the Battle Flag and replace it with the Stars and Bars. It's funny to me because it represents the exact same thing but for those who don't know better, it's a completely different flag and doesn't carry that baggage.