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33girl 08-18-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamamom13 (Post 1700393)
If you go by the number of actives in the Spring Scholarship report plus the new member classes from yesterday, with house total of 180, everyone but Gamma Phi is above house total.

Thanks mom :)

And I hate to even bring this up, but do they do that deal where the groups can bid up to chapter average instead of total?

aopirose 08-18-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA25 (Post 1700456)
Does anybody know about how many will be selected for Alpha Phi?

The number is usually Total or the average current NPCs size, which ever is larger. So let's say that Total is 180 but the average chapter size is 190. They may shoot for 190 but they certainly do not have to do so.

AnchorAlumna 08-18-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA25 (Post 1700456)
Does anybody know about how many will be selected for Alpha Phi?

New groups generally try to pledge up to "average campus size," which would be...oh...190??

Tex-A-Bama 08-18-2008 05:13 PM

Oh No-not at all- I just think this year offers a unique opportunity for those girls who were unable to find a greek home at Bama. With #'s like this year a new Greek family is a plus.

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Originally Posted by Bamamom13 (Post 1700432)
I hope I did not offend you Tex-A-Bama. I don't think I was saying that Alpha Phi was a new sorority, but that it was a new colony at Alabama.


Fawn Liebowitz 08-18-2008 05:16 PM

Not sure how much this means, but the Alpha Phi rep my daughter spoke with said they weren't going for any particular number; they were going to take the ones they wanted, whether it was 2 or 200.

AnchorAlumna 08-18-2008 05:20 PM

I have the new member list onto Excel now...sortable by sorority, name, hometown and state...PM me if you want a copy.

Bamamom13 08-18-2008 05:20 PM

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Encourage her to go to Bama Blast (on Tuesday, I think), and sign up for some great campus organizations there!
There will be a Get On Board Day on the quad. It is on Wednesday, August 27. All of the student organizations will be there and it is a great opportunity to see all the organizations that are on campus.

kchaptergphib 08-18-2008 05:26 PM

Congrats to all the New Members at Bama!:D
Last-year's list was so nicely organized. I hope someone in their office has the time to do that again for this year. Even my 25-year-old eyes strain a bit to read this year's and try to pick out individual members and hometowns!

AnchorAlumna 08-18-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bamamom13 (Post 1700479)
There will be a Get On Board Day on the quad. It is on Wednesday, August 27. All of the student organizations will be there and it is a great opportunity to see all the organizations that are on campus.

That's what I was trying to remember! Thanks, Bamamom13, for posting the correct info!
OK...recruitment is over...time for some FOOTBALL!!!

Fawn Liebowitz 08-18-2008 05:29 PM

I think Bama Blast started at 4 today, too. "Bama Blast is an event designed to welcome all incoming freshmen and transfer students with free food and live entertainment, while giving students a chance to meet each other before classes begin."

Fawn Liebowitz 08-18-2008 05:32 PM

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Ooooh! Oooooh! They re-organized the list since the last time (less than an hour ago) I looked at it! Much easier to read!
http://www.uanews.ua.edu/anews2007/a...list082007.htm
Congrats to all the New Members at Bama!:D
That link is to last year's list.

Lil_ChiO_Lady 08-18-2008 05:33 PM

Im not sure if anyone has asked this, but what happened to SDT? I noticed they weren't included in recruitment totals.

SWTXBelle 08-18-2008 05:35 PM

They do not participate in formal recruitment. They do their own thing, and kudos to them.

Loyally Kappa 08-18-2008 05:44 PM

I went by Letters this morning to purchase small gifts for two girls whose mother's are friends of mine who pledged Chi O and AOPi. The shopkeeper told me that the Alpha Phi's already have 200 girls that they plan to interview for membership.

AlphaXi_Husky 08-18-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa (Post 1700511)
I went by Letters this morning to purchase small gifts for two girls whose mother's are friends of mine who pledged Chi O and AOPi. The shopkeeper told me that the Alpha Phi's already have 200 girls that they plan to interview for membership.


Wooo - good job Alpha Phi! That's fantastic!

KSUViolet06 08-18-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA25 (Post 1700456)
Does anybody know about how many will be selected for Alpha Phi?

I'm guessing that they would want the colony to be about the same size as the average chapter size at Bama. This is how alot of sororities determine how many they will take on for a colony. For example, if the average chapter at Bama has 180 girls, then that's about how many they would like to take for their colony.

Also, colonies generally like to take on a mix of class standings. They are going to want some freshmen, but the colony isn't going to be ALL freshmen. There are going to be some upperclassmen as well.

breathesgelatin 08-18-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fawn Liebowitz (Post 1700472)
Not sure how much this means, but the Alpha Phi rep my daughter spoke with said they weren't going for any particular number; they were going to take the ones they wanted, whether it was 2 or 200.

LOL - they'd be insane if they only took 2.

I know it's a rhetorical point, but still... it makes me giggle.

rolltider17 08-18-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1700435)
As far as rushing again as a sophomore, I always tell PNMs that at a school like Bama, your BEST chance at getting a bid is as a FRESHMAN. Your chances generally don't improve if you try again next year.

I don't know anything about COB opportunities, as I believe all of the sororities are at or close to total. A few groups may have openings, but the Greek Life Office there would be your best source of info on COB opportunities.

Then of course in the upcoming weeks, Alpha Phi will be having it's colony recruitment. Yes, they are new to Bama, but they are an established Panhellenic sorority, and have many chapters all over the country. It is worth checking out as it would be an amazing thing for your daughter to be able to say that she is one of the founding members of the Bama chapter (if she were selected to be part of the group).

Alpha Phi will definitely be a great option, and I have been so pleasantly surprised by the response they've gotten! Some of the Greek stores are already stuff Alpha Phi gear and I think they'll get a great class.

It's not completely impossible to get a bid as a sophomore - I just got a bid to Alpha Chi and my roommate is pledging Chi O. Another friend of ours dropped during rush last year and just got a bid to Alpha Gam. It's really about meeting lots of girls and getting involved on campus!

Bamamom13 08-18-2008 07:18 PM

rolltider17, are you on your pledge retreat? I thought I saw the A Chi Os leaving yesterday on buses. Also, the Phi Mu girls were leaving too.

Loyally Kappa 08-18-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rolltider17 (Post 1700578)
Alpha Phi will definitely be a great option, and I have been so pleasantly surprised by the response they've gotten! Some of the Greek stores are already stuff Alpha Phi gear and I think they'll get a great class.

It's not completely impossible to get a bid as a sophomore - I just got a bid to Alpha Chi and my roommate is pledging Chi O. Another friend of ours dropped during rush last year and just got a bid to Alpha Gam. It's really about meeting lots of girls and getting involved on campus!

This it true. One of my daughter's suitemates was engaged during her freshman year and did not go through rush. The engagement was called off. So she ended up making lots of friends through her suitemates contacts and signing up for Freshman Forum. She pledged (I forget what) last fall as a sophomore.

Suggest that your daughter interview for Freshman Forum ... that should be gearing up soon. Also, coax her to keep her grades up and be initiated into Phi Eta Sigma, which is the Freshman Honor Society. If she DOES wait until next fall to rush again, exemplary campus activities could be her fresh ticket to her favorite Greek house.

Unregistered- 08-18-2008 07:38 PM

I just heard that Gamma Phi will DEFINITELY be recruiting up to total this year.

For the moms whose daughters did not receive bids as well as PNMs who did not receive bids, it might be a good idea to check out not only Alpha Phi, but Gamma Phi Beta as well -- two great Syracuse Triad groups!

For more information about 'Bama's Gamma Phi Beta chapter, please PM kk_bama. In case her inbox is full, PM me and I'll shoot her email address along.

SWTXBelle 08-18-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1700603)
I just heard that Gamma Phi will DEFINITELY be recruiting.

For the moms whose daughters did not receive bids as well as PNMs who did not receive bids, it might be a good idea to check out not only Alpha Phi, but Gamma Phi Beta as well -- two great Syracuse Triad groups!

For more information about 'Bama's Gamma Phi Beta chapter, please PM kk_bama. In case her inbox is full, PM me and I'll shoot her email address along.


Thanks, OTW - Gamma Phi is a wonderful group (not that I'm a bit biased!) and I'm so excited to have Alpha Phi coming on to the campus - I hope some pnms who perhaps had their heart set on other groups will give both Gamma Phi and Alpha Phi a closer look.

Elephant Walk 08-18-2008 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel (Post 1700341)
:rolleyes: :( I don't know why that statement rubs me the wrong way but it does.....:confused:

:rolleyes:

It's the truth.

Mountain Brook, among other towns/schools, has always been a very good town to be from at Alabama.

Likewise at Arkansas, people from the town of Stuttgart are in high demand and you can generally judge the quality of the fraternity by the amount of kids from Stuttgart it pulls.

I was impressed I saw at least three Arkansas girls. All from Little Rock, must have gone to Mount or Episcopal.

chioalum 08-18-2008 07:56 PM

Bama Recruitment
 
My friends daughter is now a Kappa Kappa Gamma at Bama. She is so excited.

SWTXBelle 08-18-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GPhiBLtColonel (Post 1700341)
:rolleyes: :( I don't know why that statement rubs me the wrong way but it does.....:confused:

Because you and I know that all being from a specific town doesn't tell you anything about the person that really counts . . .and that great women can come from anywhere!

Elephant Walk 08-18-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1700642)
Because you and I know that all being from a specific town doesn't tell you anything about the person that really counts . . .and that great women can come from anywhere!

Absolutely true.

Benzgirl 08-18-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy (Post 1700647)
Can you tell me who the top sororites are at Alabama .....Which ones do the guys like to party with.

Go away Troll!

SWTXBelle 08-18-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy (Post 1700659)
who would you say are the top sororities and Alabama? Which ones do the guys want to have parties with?

'Cause you rewording it TOTALLY makes me want to answer . . .

AnchorAlumna 08-18-2008 09:36 PM

OK, NOW I have put all the NEW info posted by UA (Thank you, Fawn Leibowitz, for posting the link) into another Excel spreadsheet, sortable by first name, last name, hometown, state, or sorority. PM me if you'd like it. BTW, I can't send an attachment to you via PM, so you'll need to send me an e-mail address.
ETA: Strike that. The "new info" was actually the 2007 list.
BUT...I still DO have the 2008 list on a sortable Excel spreadsheet. PM me with your e-mail address if you'd like a copy. :)

UGAalum94 08-18-2008 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zillini (Post 1700088)
Just wanted to correct/clarify some things. The chapters do not have a say in how many women they get through Formal Recruitment nor does Chapter Total have any bearing on this number. Panhellenic attempts to match bids so that the maximum number of PNMs receive bids AND the maximum number of chapters achieve quota.

All chapters who participate in Formal Recruitment are obligated to take Upperclassmen. There is a seperate Upperclassmen quota for them and handled in an identical manner as Freshmen quota. If a chapter misses the Upperclassmen quota they may snap bid another Upperclassmen to achieve it. They may not snap another Freshmen to fill Upperclassmen quota or vice versa. FYI - Panhellenic only reports the Freshmen quota to our I/natls. So from an I/natl statistical standpoint, Upperclassmen are counted as quota additions.

Panhellenic also determines who quota additions are and how many each chapter receives. This is not based on Chapter Total either, rather a continued attempt to place as many PNMs as possible in the chapters which the PNMs preffed yet didn't match. Panhellenic balances them out so that no single chapter receives say 20 quota additions while everyone else gets 0.

Snap bidding only occurs during Formal Recruitment to get up to Quota. After that it is called COB (Continuous Open Bidding) or COR (Continuous Open Recruitment). Chapters that achieved quota through Formal Recruitment yet are still below Chapter Total don't snap up to Total. In "regular" years (for lack of a better word), any chapter that was still below Total could COB/COR right away or throughout the semester/year until they achieved Total. However this year with Alpha Phi's colonization there is a moratorium on COR so that they may recruit without potential competition. (I don't recall the date when the moratorium is lifted.)



Thank you! I'd also like to thank all alums who contribute their time to their local chapter's Recruitment -- especially the Advisors. I'd also like to thank their families who put up with them being away from home so much. Recruitment is pure insanity with ridicously long hours, especially at a large competitive school like Bama. For the college age girls it's not nearly as big a hardship since this is the only thing going on in their lives. But for the alums who are juggling families, jobs and other real life obligations, it takes a real toll -- physically with the long, crazy hours and emotionally with the intense stress to make sure everything is done perfectly. The world will come to an end if the wrong PNM gets invited/cut. ;)

The earliest I got home on any night was midnight. Those were the nights when it was the first half of a two day round. The latest was 4:30am. Yet I still had to be up everyday at 6:30am to get my kids ready for school. I saw my Hubby long enough each day to say "Hi". I was ready to walk out the door as soon as he got home from work to take care of the kids.

Thanks for this!

I really misunderstood a lot, particularly about upperclassmen quota. That's for taking the time to put it all together.

NutBrnHair 08-19-2008 12:58 AM

Oh, come on!
 
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Originally Posted by Fawn Liebowitz (Post 1700472)
Not sure how much this means, but the Alpha Phi rep my daughter spoke with said they weren't going for any particular number; they were going to take the ones they wanted, whether it was 2 or 200.

And does anyone actually believe that?

texas711 08-19-2008 01:23 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/...9ce19388_o.jpg

breathesgelatin 08-19-2008 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 1700855)
And does anyone actually believe that?

I already commented on that. I don't think any of us believe Alpha Phi would seriously consider taking two new members. That's ridiculous.

On the other hand, I have no problem believing that the general sentiment/rhetoric behind that statement is absolutely true for Alpha Phi.

Frankly, I believe they are going to possibly have 400-500 potential new colony members based on some of the things I've read here. Certainly at LEAST 300. They are going to have plenty of room to be selective and take the girls they really want - which frankly, as we can all figure out via common sense, is probably going to be a larger number rather than a smaller one.

bamagirl09 08-19-2008 02:43 AM

Everyone except Gamma Phi made quota. There must be something wrong with Pi Phi's list on the website because they made quota (at least freshman quota).

Aphigal 08-19-2008 07:16 AM

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Not sure how much this means, but the Alpha Phi rep my daughter spoke with said they weren't going for any particular number; they were going to take the ones they wanted, whether it was 2 or 200
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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair (Post 1700855)
And does anyone actually believe that?

Yes I actually find some grain of truth in this. Two members? Probably not but there have been some campuses (Cornell comes to mind) where we have specifically and very strategically only recruited 10 members and held at around that number for some time. Our Delta chapter is now a top rusher so when everyone thought we were "crazy" for re-colonizing with 10 members but we knew what we were doing :D

Now here is my disclaimer!! I want to caution people to not start thinking that our colonization plan is 10 women at Bama...I am not on the colonization team but given the house etc I would guess you will see somewhere around 100 new Phi's. However I felt really strongly that I needed to post and let people know yes we have pledged a highly selective few women on campuses where total is upwards of 100.

It's important on this campus to be ultra selective. So while we may have 300 or more interviews I would be highly surprised if we pledged to total this semester as some great women are either too shell shocked from formal recruitment to put themselved through another process. Other women are hanging back to see how we do, what shakes out. We would be interested in speaking with these women and potentially pledging some of them later in the semester.

On pins and needles for Alpha Phi and wishing the best to the team there!

Army Wife'79 08-19-2008 07:53 AM

Texas711, thank you. I LOVE pie charts.

Bear 08-19-2008 09:04 AM

Our daughter made it into Gamma Phi Beta!!!!!!!!! Horray!!!!!!! She is so excited. Did anyone post photos? Congrats to ALL.

bamadz 08-19-2008 09:20 AM

I have a quick question. If a girl is offered a bid by Alpha Phi and she denies it, she can't accept another "snap" bid from a different sorority, right? She has to wait a year, right before she can take another bid?

Titchou 08-19-2008 09:41 AM

No. If she turns it down, she can accept elsewhere if one is offered. It's only if she accepts one that it is binding for a year. And it wouldn't be a "snap bid" from another group. It would be done thru COB/COR. Snap bids are offered between bid matching and actual bid day activities. Once all the bids are handed out from formal recruitment/snap bidding, the COR/COB process starts and continues until a group has reached quota and/or total. (or there is a moratorium for colonization for a new chapter)

Fawn Liebowitz 08-19-2008 09:50 AM

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I don't think any of us believe Alpha Phi would seriously consider taking two new members. That's ridiculous.
Of course it's ridiculous. Her point was that just because they're colonizing, they don't feel the need to take just anyone for the sake of numbers. (I had no idea that people would actually think she meant it as a factual statement).


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