I don't really watch the show, but I've somewhat kept up with what's going on, and this is what I thought was the problem, too.
Glad I'm not seeing things that aren't there.

I watched the season premiere and I've come to the conclusion that Kate is one of the least self-aware people I've ever seen. She has no clue on how she is coming across or how the things she does affect people. The whole time she was crying, I could tell she was really upset, and has no clue as to why, and that the situation is partly her fault. I'm guessing this is due to her upbringing.

Looks like Kate is so into herself, that she can't hear a word Maddy has to say. I would think someone in the room would do something... watch the video!

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/jon-kate-pl...-up-steam--405

Oh please. Talk about overreacting.

And I don't mean Kate.

The clip wasn't that out there....I mean I would have given her a sip of the drink before myself, but Mady is also a whiny brat half the time, so I can understand Kate's reaction.

Has anyone seen the American Choppers commercial with Jon it in??

:confused:

I watched it and I think I understand. She has 8 kids. She's alone and the cameras are about to roll. If she gave some to Maddy-EVERYONE would want and she didn't have time to do that and make sure they were not getting water on their clothes and were ready to go. She is going to do the most talking, so even though it looked really selfish I see where she may be coming from.

The problem I have with Kate - and I just watched the "water" clip, is that she appears to be so detached all the time. I have always thought Mady is an over dramatic child. But, Kate does a poor job, time and time again, of explaining and communicating to the kids in a lot of situations. A brief conversation with Mady to reassure her that they will get drinks soon - not the "Can Judy get the kids drinks?" conversation she had over Mady's head with the producers, would have gone a long way. Her body language, everything, screams, " I am not giving any attention to what you are saying."

Of course she can't drop everything and attend to Mady's needs at that moment - but she does little to directly engage her and let her know she is aware she is thirsty and will get something for her as soon as it is possible. Everyone wants to be heard and kids are no exception. Actively listening to someone is not the same thing as catering to their every whim.

Plus, it WAS rude to say, "you are right, this is making me thirsty. Throw me a bottle of water." without letting MAdy know she will also get something soon.

She drives me crazy!

Jon and Kate will make big announcement, Monday 6/22
 

Big announcement to be made on Monday night's show....

http://www.popeater.com/television/a...e-promo/533262

Maybe they will end the show for the good of their kids....but somehow I don't think that will happen!

^^^ I think that's a laaaaame attempt for ratings. Ratings have been dropping since that premiere episode.

Maybe they are going to announce they are done w/ the show.

That would be too good to be true!

2007, really? I thought it was earlier than that. I know that in one special the sextuplets were 18 months, but i thought the very first aired around '05 or '06.

How disgusting to tease "life-changing decisions" to generate higher ratings. Their priorities are seriously wrong. I used to watch the show, so I'm interested in what happens to them (and hoping for the best), but I can barely stand to watch the commercials now. It feels just like watching someone you know fight with their spouse...very uncomfortable! And sad.

This morning on a local tv morning show in the philly area they indicated that Monday's show would reveal that the couple plans to divorce. Not sure if thats true or just a way to get ratings.

Jon's been spotted around NYC with well-known realtors.

That's a shame.

Well, I don't think anyone knows how big the apartment he would buy/rent is, so it's probably not safe to assume that he's not planning to have the kids at all.

Not only that - NYC isn't that far away from where they are. It's not like he's going to LA. I don't blame him for wanting to get out of PA - as the numerous Philly rush threads have shown, everyone is up in everyone else's business here.

That is a good point. I shouldn't jump to conclusions like that. And I didn't realize that NYC isn't far. Still sad, though!

http://www.people.com/people/article...286254,00.html

The Gosselins have filed for divorce (according to People).

Maybe I'm forgetting something, but is TLC the first network to actively market the break-up of a family?

I feel for those kids. :(

This show is breaking my heart.

I dislike them both so much. SOOO much.

Did anyone else notice the exchange between Jon and Kate during the umbrella tag team at the Mother's Day brunch? He was at the back passenger door of the van with a large umbrella, and she was getting out of the front passenger door with her umbrella. Their umbrellas became tangled.

In the old days, she would have said something like, "Jooonnn, get your umbrella off of mine!" Then turned to the camera guy with, "Tsk, he is such a moron with an umbrella!"

Today, the exchange was a polite, "Oh, we're caught,etc" and no irritation or sarcasm.

Too bad that lesson was learned too late.

I really wish they could spend some serious time and money in therapy instead of divorce lawyers. It is really sad...

^^^ I agree.

I don't know a marriage that hasn't had to readjust, reconnect, or re-evaluate at some point. Marriage is tough. You have to be stubborn enough to figure out how to make it work, imo.

does she?
well, that's good...even if it is too late to save the marriage, at least she can hopefully fix that part of her personality

I don't feel bad for them. They chose to play this out in front of the cameras. They could have put some effort into fixing the marriage. They didn't. They have no one to blame but themselves.

Someone told me that when you have triplets, your likelihood to divorce is something like 90%. With 8 kids, they had the odds against them.

I can't BEEEE LEEEEEEVE that Jon pulled the "there are soldiers dying in Iraq, why do people care about what I eat for lunch" card.

You obviously wanted people to care what you eat for lunch when you started the show (when, ummm, there were also soldiers dying in Iraq) because I have yet to hear of anyone that gets involved with a television show on any level and doesn't want people to watch or talk about it.

So true, 33girl!

The soldiers dying in Iraq comment sounded very staged, or at the very least, like someone else had said it, and he thought it sounded good enough to repeat on camera.

I didn't watch the show, but the headline on Yahoo! news says that the show is continuing despite the divorce. Are they serious? That's just crazy wrong. (Seth and Amy need to do a "Really?!?" segment about this on Weekend Update on SNL.)

Omg I LOVE Seth & Amy's "oh REALLY?" segments! My husband and I often comment on where it may be appropriate.

Seth Myers...are you reading?

I haven't watched the episode yet, but I caught the last five or so minutes last night.

Was it my imagination, or did Jon get his ears pierced? I feel like Jon is having some sort of mid (quarter? third?) life crisis. It's like he woke up, suddenly realized he was thirtyish years old, married with eights kids and was like, "OH S%$." I feel like his behavior over the past or so months has been blatantly irresponsible and immature (especially if some of the stuff I've read in the last couple days is true...... :eek:), and I don't blame Kate for divorcing his sorry ass. Grow the hell up.

This whole situation is just disgusting. Those poor kids.