Oh for crying out loud in a bucket.

IT HAS HAPPENED. What part of this is not penetrating??

Like I said before, I think that the reason you're so cavalier about all this is you know ZTA alum initiation is few and far between and always has been, so it's a moot point as far as you're concerned.

It HAS happened? To whom and by whom? Please feel free to PM me if you don't feel comfortable naming names here. I have never heard of it.

And, no, it's not a "moot point"-- because I read the AI forum and enjoy it.. and don't want to see a vocal minority ruin it for the rest of us.

Amended to add: Alpha Frog seems to think nobody believes in sponsoring an AI from GC... so either she is right or you are.

Jesus Christ... "nobody" on GC is a generic term for 99.99999% of everybody. There are hundreds of thousands of members, so if there's an exception, it's going to happen. Why must you be so f*ing literal?

So then you're saying that it happens but is extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely rare? .00001 %? So then, what's the problem?

That's the problem.

It's a problem that it's rare that someone is sponsored on Greek Chat? You'd like to make it common?

Who was sponsored and who did the sponsoring? Again, please feel free to PM me the names. I have never heard of it. Or are you assuming?

Do a search.

No blueangel, it really happened. This woman initially went to a few different sororities for AI attempts, none of them worked out, and then was OFFERED a sponsorship -- really out of the blue -- by a member of GC in a fourth org. When she posted her story and mentioned that she was offered sponsorship on GC, it seemed to invoke a virtual slew of "SPONSOR ME!!!!" requests. I'm not going to comment on this particular woman's story since she's been initiated now and that's all that matters, but unfortunately, it seemed to put the idea in the random PNAIs' heads that you could just get anyone from the internet to sponsor you or walk you through the AI process for their sorority.


ETA: the problem is not with this particular woman, or that this only happened once, the problem is it's really obnoxious when PNAIs basically spam the board with "sponsor me" requests. Most have been deleted now, but these same PNAIs are the ones that start bitching and cussing everyone out on the board when the GCers are like "This is not the appropriate way to obtain sponsorship." It's obnoxious that this bs clogs up what should ordinarily be an interesting forum. Since I feel like there's a small handful of really great PNAIs that are going about the AI process in the right way and a whole hell of a lot of freakshow PNAIs that got cut from every sorority in college because they have no social graces, I think it's appropriate to either close the board and let the good PNAIs post in their respective sororities' forums, or start immediately closing down AI shopping threads like the D9 forums do.

No, it has really happened on this forum.

One person.. that's what all this "big deal" is about? I'd still like to know who this was and who sponsored her.

What's the problem if a bunch of people ask.. just say no. And.. I haven't seen a "slew" of sponsorship requests. Where are they?

All that is needed is a "stickie" that says "Do not request sponsorship from GC members." Simple painless solution to a problem I just, frankly, don't see.

If new people actually read the stickies, it might be ok (still not ideal, but ok), but they don't. Why do you think we're always getting dumb newbie questions, even though there's a stickied thread telling new people what questions are dumb...???

In my PM box, for one.

Or they get deleted after they turn into trainwrecks.

What difference does it make who either party involved was? Just accept the fact that it has happened, and that that is part of what the underlying problem is.

You sure are wanting a lot of information for someone who gets so defensive when someone on GC is "identified". If either party wants to "out" herself, let them do it on their own. Don't come here asking people to tell you who it was (whether by posting or PMing).

This has happened at least twice. Why are you entitled to know who?

I think it's kind of lame that I asked that alphagamoochagoo or whatever her name is several questions and then she decided to demand that any questions to her be taken to PM. I guess she can't answer them.

I am a journalist, and I like to have the facts verified before I accept something as fact. I have never seen this happen, and nobody has provided a link or a name. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I never saw it happen. I'd like to see the post. I haven't been able to find it in a search.

If it was a public post, it is not "outing". "Outing" is when someone posts personal photos from another site of someone without their permission, or personal information such as their hometown, age, etc. without their permission.

This issue seems to be much ado about nothing.