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KSigkid 08-09-2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC
It's probably similar, where people don't realize that hitting .300, walking 100 times, and smashing 40 doubles is actually better than hitting 50 home runs (and since he'll probably hit 45-50 HRs this year too, I mean . . . SICK) . . . Thomas eventually got his recognition, but only after years - plus his counting stats are nuts too. Part of it might be because Frank played in the field, too - but seriously, he barely played in the field . . . Hafner is a total freak, though, and in that regard they're totally similar.

Thomas was probably the worst defensive first baseman for a while in the 90's, and probably one of the worst defensive regulars, period. However, I think his lack of recognition goes back to the counting stats you were talking about; you always heard more about Juan Gone during that time period because of the home runs and RBIs (even though he didn't do anything else).

I think Hafner could end up like a Manny case - one day someone will figure out how good he is, and you'll have 1000 columnists taking the credit for "discovering" his talent.

ETA: I think I found the next topic for my blog. Thank you, Mr. Hafner.

KSig RC 08-09-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid
Thomas was probably the worst defensive first baseman for a while in the 90's, and probably one of the worst defensive regulars, period.

Word - Big Hurt's Rate2s in the 90s:

94
99 (56 games, clearly an abberation)
91
91
93
89
93
91
85(!)
92

FRAA:
-3
-1
-16
-14
-7
-10
-10
-9
-2
-4

Because 10 runs ~= 1 win . . . that means all those White Sox teams lost about one game per YEAR because of Big Frank's D - that's insane. Totally insane. Luckily, he was having overall WARPs of 8-10(!!!) in that time, clearly a Hall of Fame peak . . . but yeah, SHITTY fielding. While Hafner definitely sucks, he's never had a RATE2 below 94 (just for completeness).

-RC
--Is a nerd.

sigtau305 08-09-2006 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=KSig RC]Agreed about Hafner - he's the classic example: his rate stats (which are way more important to, y'know, SCORING RUNS) are off the freaking charts, making him easily the best hitter in the AL. However, no one cares (at least, none of the asshole writers who vote) because other guys have better counting stats . . . like RBIs are 100% the hitter? C'mon.[QUOTE]

KSigkid 08-09-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC
-RC
--Is a nerd.

Yes, but guess who checked out his rates prior to posting before that?

This guy.

Also, I got excited about having a new blog topic. Weird.

KSigKid
- Also a nerd

The1calledTKE 08-09-2006 04:55 PM

How did Mike Lowell get left off for comeback player of the year? I would have picked him before Schilling.

Thrillhouse 08-25-2006 10:46 AM

Went to Detroit to take in all four vs the white sox. Sooner or later, folks will have to start recognizing how good Dye has been this year in terms of the MVP race.

BobbyTheDon 09-07-2006 03:06 PM

Yo yo yo yo yo wassup?

Who's gonna win it all this year?


Tiguh Tiguh Tiguh Woods yall!!!

Buttonz 09-16-2006 04:57 AM

4 games. 34 hours. What a weekend this is going to be for NY/Boston Baseball fans...

Add in two good football match-ups on Sunday (even though I can't stand football, it's Jets-Pats & Giants-Eagles) and it's an all sport weekend for NYers!
:D :D

SSS1365 09-16-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Buttonz (Post 1321819)
4 games. 34 hours. What a weekend this is going to be for NY/Boston Baseball fans...

Add in two good football match-ups on Sunday (even though I can't stand football, it's Jets-Pats & Giants-Eagles) and it's an all sport weekend for NYers!
:D :D

I'm looking for my Mets to secure the NL East title tonight... and I am hoping for a Subway Series this year!

Buttonz 09-16-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SSS1365 (Post 1321840)
I'm looking for my Mets to secure the NL East title tonight... and I am hoping for a Subway Series this year!

Your not the only one who is hoping for another Subway Series..and a repeat of the result form the last one, of course :D ;)

SSS1365 09-16-2006 10:19 PM

WTF! The Mets just can't do $#!T against left-handed pitchers! Looks like they'll have to clinch it another day...

OrchidAlum 09-16-2006 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Buttonz (Post 1321819)
[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]4 games. 34 hours. What a weekend this is going to be for NY/Boston Baseball fans...

I wish I could see the games here in DC. mlb.com is simply not enough. :(

Let's Go YANKEES! :D

SSS1365 09-17-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OrchidAlum (Post 1322090)
I wish I could see the games here in DC. mlb.com is simply not enough. :(

Let's Go YANKEES! :D

I'm with you there (except for the "Let's go Yankees" part ;) )! Last night I was so mad that I couldn't even go to a sports bar to watch baseball because of college football. Sometimes it sucks living in NC State/UNC/Duke country, and not giving a damn about any of the schools! Won't be able to watch it today either, because of NFL football (but at least I'll watch that).

BetteDavisEyes 09-17-2006 10:38 AM

Jeezuz H. Christ.

WTF happened to my Dodgers? Last night, they completely imploded. Ugh! :mad:

Buttonz 09-17-2006 05:03 PM

Mets seme like they just can't do it....not like the Yanks are doing much better :(


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