Originally Posted by alum (Post 1650021)

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

Originally Posted by alum (Post 1650021)

I don't think the raising the bar statement implied that the bar was raised because a Caucasian happens to be the val. The bar was raised because an obviously bright, focused student was recruited to be part of the student body and that this recruit lived up to his potential. PWIs have recruited the best and brightest African-Americans for awhile. It stands to reason that HBCUs would do the same for their non-focus populations.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1650032)

You will rarely find a PWI or other predominantly white institution to praise blacks by saying "the bar was raised." Usually, blacks will be celebrated for excelling and working harder to achieve, what their white counterparts have already achieved, despite the status quo and defying whites' expectations/stereotypes.

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1650024)

but they've overcome so much and have had so much disadvantage in this country. he is one of the "good ones." not like the rest.

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1650024)

and i should punch you in the boob for looking at another man.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1650037)

Yeah, no one would've expected a white man to come out on top.

Not taking anything away from this bright (and fine) young man and how hard he worked, of course.



I think I'm insulted right now but I still wuv u.

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Minority members in the IFC and NPC...ready...set...go!!!!

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1650040)

:unsure:

i'm jealous.

oh yea, my frat is very diverse. we have 3 filipinos.

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1650048)

Do you have TFC there?

Wowowee filmed here on Saturday as part of their US Tour. 20,000 Filipinos showed up.

Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1650049)

does directtv have it? but naw, plus every damn show is "parental advisory"

hell naw.

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1650051)

Doesn't look like they have it: http://www.abs-cbni.com/programming/tfc/index.html

It's a variety/game show. They even have their own dancers:

http://www.talkstink.com/wp-content/...weedancers.jpg

http://www.talkstink.com/wp-content/...wowoeegals.jpg

I didn't know "Parental Advisory" is still around...?

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1650004)

hijack/

I was waiting for someone to post that. LOL.

That fine specimen of a man is a great news story. :D

But other than being the first white valedictorian, he's the typical Morehouse man. I didn't like the fact that an article said that he "raised the bar." He didn't because he is the typical super-accomplished Morehouse man and isn't the only valedictorian with a 4.0. And of course he isn't the only white man at Morehouse. His being the first white valedictorian is indicative of inclusion on the part of Morehouse and his peers but not indicative of any triumph of whites amidst systemic adversity. Race, gender, and other minority groups' firsts are celebrated because of triumph amidst structural adversity.

/end hijack

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1653465)

Thanks for reminding me that I spelled "amidst" wrong TWICE in that post. Yikes. :eek:

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin (Post 1649860)

I remember the summer I participated in a summer program that was a joint effort between W&L, Spelman, Morehouse, and Berea college. I already had great opinions of all these institutions, but I remember being really shocked at how preppy some of the Morehouse men were. These guys were more preppy than most W&L guys! In fact they could give the guys in the top fraternity at W&L a run for their money in terms of preppy/expensive/classy clothing, wealth, and general personal comportment and class. There were definitely guys like that at W&L too, but not guys that got accepted into the supposed "top" fraternities. I felt like some of the Morehouse guys in the program were probably the preppiest people I'd ever met. I'm sure that many of them were involved in NPHC orgs.

That was a really educational moment for me - I wasn't particularly preppy myself before I went to college - I went to a big redneck high school and wore jeans and tshirts and had even been sort of goth early on in high school. So when I first met "preppy" guys in college, I did indeed assume it was a "white" thing, but it's definitely not. If you think otherwise it's probably based on your own lack of experience.

At W&L every sorority had African American members, but the "top" fraternities did not. Although - the "top" sororities had fewer African American members. They basically took the richest African American girls.

Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 1653569)

This highlights the ignorance of many whites when it comes to all things "black." As most African Americans collegians know, Morehouse enrolls many students from top Northern prep schools, day schools and private schools from all over America. One major reason they want to go to Morehouse is to enjoy a high quality majority African American educational and social experience, which many have not had in their lives.