I know, but I just got the vibe that his school doesn't permit any sort of pledge activities for anybody ever - like Greek orgs as a whole are not just unrecognized but you can get kicked out for being in them. YMMV.

Or it is possible the school believes in the Insta-cross school of thought. essentially you get a bid and are initiated right away.

yeah my school thinks in that way. i understand working for you letters but i dont understand mindless violence...

I put it this way--why would any organization want members with so little self-respect that they would tolerate being hazed? Why would anyone have so little self-respect as to want to join an organization that betrayed its own "brothers" by hazing? To me, once it's in that perspective, the right answers become clear.

This, a thousand times. This group whose informational I went to put hazing to the PNMs this way: "nobody who will haze you is worthy of being called your brother, and nobody who will allow themselves to be hazed is worthy of being a brother." That's my personal policy in a nutshell.

My personal opinion on new member education is that it should do three things:

1. Teach new members about the history and traditions of your organization, their expectations as a member and the like.

2. Help new members build a connection and bond with their fellow new members and brothers of their organization.

3. Help new members acclimate to and become involved in what's going on with their university. This is especially important with incoming Freshmen.

If more groups took the approach of "what can we do to help our new members become at home with their organization and new community" instead of "what can we do to test these guys and see how badly they want to be members" I think you'd see a much improved reputation of Greek life in general.