I think Kate and Jon's eyesight is getting faulty and they think the 8 is a $.

You nailed it on the head....

They are more concerned about the money they are making them the well-being of their children!

I liked the old Jon and Kate where they were somewhat normal people.....

If they get divorced, I can totally see Kate dissing them all.....that girl just strikes me as celebrity crazed!

Saw Kate on the covers of magazines in Kroger's - the People cover looked like a "Glamourshot".

What is this look supposed to be: Pennsylvania Housewife Barbie? Really:rolleyes:

Read the caption and have a laugh!

http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/what-wer...g/2902?nc#id=2

Bump for the season premiere.

I appreciate how honest (or dishonest, depending on what lens you're looking at this through) they're being about the drama.

It's weird that they're interviewing separately.

SWTXBelle seems like they're alluding to a possible "Jon minus nine" situation, although I doubt that'll be on tv. :(

So sad for the kids . . . no matter how it turns out.

I say that's the reaction they were going for. People will appreciate the honesty and be driven by the soap opera antics of an "uncertain future." It's as predictable as watching The Hills.

I believe this is all a publicity stunt. People were getting a little bored with the "+8" and wanted to focus more on Jon and Kate, since their marriage arrangement always seemed strange.

The gray haired bodyguard is a cutie.

I would have watched the season premiere regardless because I like the show but I can see what you're saying.

I feel bad for the kids, that's for sure. My heart almost broke when Hannah said to Jon "I don't want you to leave again daddy."

Maybe I turned away too quickly...but did anyone else notice that they didn't do the usual "Next Time on Jon and Kate Plus 8" at the end of the show?

Jon seems sorta resigned to it being over, Kate seems very tired and sad. Like she sorta feels like she may have brought this upon herself. But at the same time she doesn't want to seem as if she's just miserable and pining away after Jon.

Sad situation all the way around

There was a commercial about the next episode about 5 minutes into this cake boss show.

Apparently Kate and Maddy are in California while Jon's at home with the other seven kids. Kinda like how Jon and Cara went skiing in Utah while Kate was at home with the other seven kids?

Good. I guessed that maybe I just turned away too soon to watch the Nuggets/Lakers game.

I think it was kinda funny to be having white arrows to point out where the paparazzi were, like duh, we know you're there!

Was it my imagination where one time Kate gave someone some cake but didn't give Jon any?

Sad when she acknowledged early in the episode that she knows that she's been mean to him all these years...then why haven't you improved!!

Like it's mentioned, they rarely were seen just normal holding hands, smooching. I realize it's hard to do all the time but it seems like the camera(s) would have picked it up more if it had been there.

I don't know what to think about this episode. I'm hoping it not a publicity thing like Chaos says, cause I felt for poor Kate. It was really sad to hear her say that she didn't want them to be a statistic of other families with multiples.

And to watch them do the group interview with them trying to stay at the opposite ends of the couch was really :(.

When you think about their odds of making it, it's really tough. First off the multiples thing. Add into it the statistics of married couples that stay married throughout the course of their reality shows... even if couples don't divorce they have serious marital difficulties.

It just sucks. I've been a fan of the show (not obsessed and I don't watch it every week but I do tune in for the premieres and try to catch the marathons) and I can't say that it's a complete surprise that it's going this way. Even if Kate hadn't behaved so meanly to Jon I think it would have gone this way, to be completely honest.

I think it just boils down to the fact that Jon hadn't wanted to be married, and having the sextuplets didn't help, so he just has given up on the whole situation.

They already talk like a divorced couple. They both admit their focus is the kids. They never really talked about the other spouse. You can't stay married just for the kids.

I feel sorry for Kara and Maddy who, you know, are going to have someone at school say, "I saw your mommy crying on tv...etc." It is obvious that both of the older girls know something is up.

Also, for everyone who has remarked about the exploitation of the little ones, I think the chance at a normal childhood has gone by the wayside as the media craze has been ratcheted up several notches. When you have to give instructions about the paparazzi waiting outside the party store before you can unload the van, that is not normal.

IMO, the "I do this all for my kids" slogan is wearing thin. The marriage has suffered and now the kids will suffer. Time to get out. Write a book about the strain multiples and reality shows put on marriages and cash in...

It is really a sad, sad situation. (as are most divorces)

Wait. I missed this episode. Jon said he didn't want to be married? At what point did he stop wanting to be married? Before the twins? Before the wedding? WHEN?! That is a very confusing statement for someone who is married to make.

He never said straight out "I don't want to be married" but he made it pretty clear that he only cares about the kids (i.e. not Kate) and never made a point to say that he was hopeful the marriage would work, etc. Kate made that point in a roundabout way, probably to save her pride since she knew Jon wouldn't be saying the same thing. Even at the end they both said they didn't know if they would be together.

btw, like Jon would ever admit on his "family" show that he cheated. He acts like him saying it didn't happen is enough to quash the rumors. I call big fat liar. No way is a man in his early (mid?) thirties hanging out with a twenty something who ISN'T his wife/gf/best friend/etc getting wasted at bars if something isn't going on.

I also thought it was interesting that Kate never said "I believe that he didn't cheat". She only said "Jon made a mistake..."

TLC must be thrilled, I bet last night was a ratings bonanza.

Supposedly, they are going to therapy.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5034150.shtml

they need to TURN OFF THE DAMN CAMERAS!!!

Which isn't likely to happen as long as they have viewers.

I didn't watch last night's epi, and after reading everything I've read today online, I'm glad. I honestly don't think I'll watch it ever again. It's just a sad divorce documentary at this point. Those poor kids.

That is the best statement I have heard. Simply put and to the darn point!!!

Dude on Entertainment Tonight said "if this is all a publicity stunt, they are great actors."

They might just be great actors. We shall see.

I watched the encore of the episode tonight & I totally agree with you. As a child of infidelity and divorce--it's hard enough to survive behind closed doors.

Can that do that with their contracts right now?

And Alexis talking to Jon at the birthday party telling him not to leave anymore totally made me cry. I'm such a sucker for this family, even though it seems to be falling apart.

I honestly don't remember what episode it was, but he mentioned that he always thought he'd never get married "and then he met Kate." He's also said it in magazine interviews as well.

At this point, you say screw the contracts and go ahead and sue us TLC, and try to save the family. It reminds me of Courtney Love reading Kurt Cobain's suicide note and when she got to the part where he said "I don't want to do this anymore" she yelled "THEN F*#@ING QUIT."

Unless you're at an operating table with someone's head open and you're operating on their brain, you don't HAVE to do anything.

Isn't that true for many, many reality shows?

Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin weigh in
 

Interesting interview.....I think the whole thing about laws for kids on reality shows is a bit far fetched.....I don't think anything like that would ever get passed.

It is sad that their family both extended and closer to home are having problems with relationships.

One thing I have been thinking is how do the Duggars manage to keep their series to not cause tension? I think it may have something to do with the way they raise their kids and the influence of their faith on their everyday lives.

Maybe there should be a Jon and Kate/Duggar intervention! lol! :)

Well, the Duggars are much more stable than the Gosselins. For one, they've been married twice as long. They have older children, which makes them less "exotic" than a family of multiples are. Second, they don't seem to have gotten wrapped up in the financial benefits of the "lifestyle" as much as Jon and Kate did. Jim-Bob has had a job, and didn't get fired under weird circumstances like Jon did. Since they had pretty much one kid at a time, they didn't start getting a ton of publicity like the parents of multiples do. They just had a big traditional family--and honestly, it's not that much bigger than the family my grandparents had, which was pretty typical for their time and region.

I do agree that a lot of that stability is probably tied into their faith. Michelle's probably not going to get plastic surgery and get a trendy haircut. They already have a big house that they paid for themselves. They may get exposed to some things, but I can imagine them turning it into a good thing for them.

I also get the feeling that if things got rough, the Duggars would just say no.

Love this!


ETA - Actually, I don't think the law to protect kids on reality shows is too far fetched. It already occurs in regular television/movie production. It is not so far a leap to apply it to reality filming production. And, with this latest controversy, I'd say it is much more likely to become law than not. This whole Jon/Kate situation has really brought children's rights, or lack thereof, to the forefront.

I think the Duggars honestly respect each other too much. It seems like if one wanted out, the other would too. Also you don't see Mrs. Duggar constantly raggin on Mr. Duggar, or the other way around.

Bottom line is that Kate grew a big head, ugly hair, and lost respect for herself and her family. While the paparazzi may get worse if they were to quit the show, it has to end sometime.

The Orange County Register had a good article on Jon & Kate. Love his Who Cares attitude!

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/j...476-won-people

DaffyKD

Although I find it kind of funny that he wrote an entire article about not caring about the subject of the article.