The Alpha handsign is in the shape of a "Phi." DUH. :p

Yeah calls, handsigns, and some other NPHC traditions are unofficial for most (?) of the NPHC orgs.

True story: I like our "other" hand sign better, which looks like the Zeta sign.

The point I was trying to make was not to equate anything the IFC/NPC orgs do to NPHC traditions; just to point out that they do not have "a monopoly" on these traditions between pre-LGLO/MCGLO life. I have not attended every college in the country; so I can only attest to what I have seen myself. In no way am I implying that all of XYZ fraternity/sorority does anything. Just that it is not unheard of.

Again, I am not concerned with rather so-and-so's handsign has a secret meaning or if it's official or anything of the sort. But when you have non-NPHC groups proudly showing their handsigns on threads like these, then there is no real reason to think that handsigns are simply a trivial and haphazard action just because they do not hold the same meanings that the NPHC handsigns do.

You're missing the point.

If you've read the pertinent pages of this thread already, you need not rehash these topics. If you haven't read the pertinent pages of this thread already, you should do so.

HOW DARE YOU CREATE A PORTAL FROM OUR UNIVERSE TO HAPPY PONY RAINBOW LAND!!!!!!

This is worse than Time Bandits!

A poster with an agenda. That's new. :p

i think its not as deep as you are making it. with 26 orgs, and in a culture where handsigns may not be as relevant or common, or consistent between regions/chapters, to simply ask and display in a thread, "hey does your org have a sign, if so what is it?" doesn't make it less important to those orgs.

versus, within NPHC, only 9 orgs' signs to recognize/remember. no thread is needed for that - chances are fellow NPHC members will recognize each other's signs in the street, or on other campuses, etc. and similarily, the LGLOs/MCGLOs probably recognize each other's handsigns because there share a bond as a unified body.

I'm about to start a thread asking NPHCers what their signs and calls are.

I look forward to *crickets* and that thread sinking to the bottom. Only to be dug up by some bored soul in a few years.

LOL, what they said.

How can I miss a point that I originated? :confused:

I made a post and there was an issue with what I posted. I'm referring to my original post and nothing else.

Read threads? Um no...again, it's not that serious. :rolleyes:

If you think you "originated" the point then you didn't read the thread. Do that.

Um, I did read this thread. If you re-read my original post, you will see I pointed out a different slant on the topic from the perspective of a member who's been there for most of my orgs. existence.

The original poster of the thread has yet to come forward and say "oh that's enough; I have all the information I need" and the thread is still open. If the moderator wishes to delete my post for reiteration than be it. But since neither one of those things have happened (as of right now), I think you're getting way too worked up over nada.

ORLY?

I wasn't specifically looking for anything; just getting some others' perspectives.

This was kinda a spin-off thread, anyway. I forgot from where.