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laylo 04-09-2007 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1425625)
Who is we?

"We" was me, DSTRen13, and DSTCHAOS.



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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1425625)
Okay, gotcha, gotcha. My impression of you is that you did think that what I was discussing was out of bounds with the idea of social construction but you won't admit to that so let's just drop it and move on. I'm not going to change and from the looks of it neither are you.

I've "admitted" several times that that's what I think. However I did not indicate that the social construction of race was the only topic to be discussed in this thread.

Best wishes on GC.

7thSonofOsiris 04-09-2007 11:48 PM

Laylo...why??
 
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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1427036)
"We" was me, DSTRen13, and DSTCHAOS.





I've "admitted" several times that that's what I think. However I did not indicate that the social construction of race was the only topic to be discussed in this thread.

Best wishes on GC.

Laylo,

Why are ya'll playing with this clown? She clearly knows nothing, and she has no idea what she's talking about. I read all of her post and realized that I was wasting my time in doing so. She doesn't know the difference between African Americans, South Afrikkaners, or true Africans. Why would she? Clearly, she has never been expected to know the differences in these nomenclatures that define nothing more than geographical states of existence, and the ethnigroups that live according to the placings of these names. She's probably not a full blown racist, but moreso, a closet one. As a matter of fact, Sista is probably a dude, faking to be female. Don't waste your time Laylo.

7th

DSTCHAOS 04-10-2007 10:35 AM

Exactly. ;) :)

1908Revelations 04-10-2007 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris (Post 1427069)
Laylo,

Why are ya'll playing with this clown? She clearly knows nothing, and she has no idea what she's talking about..... As a matter of fact, Sista is probably a dude, faking to be female. Don't waste your time Laylo.

7th

Sometimes the topic may get the person involved or it is just the troll. I know I let a troll or two get under my skin before. Laylo knows that person is not worth the time.

7thSonofOsiris 04-10-2007 11:33 AM

I see..
 
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Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1427258)
Sometimes the topic may get the person involved or it is just the troll. I know I let a troll or two get under my skin before. Laylo knows that person is not worth the time.

1908Revelations,

I see and I dig that. To school her/him through his/her apparent sophomoric understanding is brilliant. Good deal.

7th

laylo 04-10-2007 12:48 PM

When someone misunderstands something that I do understand or says things about me that are untrue, I'm inclined to clarify. But I do know that you have to choose your battles and I agree that in this case I should not have bothered. I just got caught up. I'll do better in the future.

Sista 04-10-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1427036)
"We" was me, DSTRen13, and DSTCHAOS..


That's what I thought it meant.




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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1427036)
" I've "admitted" several times that that's what I think. However I did not indicate that the social construction of race was the only topic to be discussed in this thread.

Best wishes on GC.

Then you would not have to make it a point to point out what you and someone else was discussing. Particularly, when it was you who first approached me after I made a contribution to this topic which you so happened to disagree with. I was not the one who initially approached you with a rebuttal and then turned around and made it a point to mention that me and others were talking about such and such.

Now, best wishes to you

1908Revelations 04-10-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1427336)
When someone misunderstands something that I do understand or says things about me that are untrue, I'm inclined to clarify. But I do know that you have to choose your battles and I agree that in this case I should not have bothered. I just got caught up. I'll do better in the future.

Soror I was just telling 7th about how I was livid about a thread in our Ave about dating and how I was mighty P.O.ed!! There is nothing wrong with clarifying what you meant.

BTW....I love your siggy

Sista 04-10-2007 01:11 PM

As far as my being called a closet racist and a clown, it doesn't phase me coming from a bunch of wanna be professors and fake scholars.

I tried to redirect the topic for the longest, it was your obsessed colleague who kept it up. I am very stubborn so I do have the stamina to keep going, even if it is all for nothing. However, nothing is not always for nothing and we even learn from the time we think we have wasted. What I have learned is, you are all a team of phonies who keep evading my question. I asked a question which no one seems to be able to deal with. I wonder why?




Those British people for the purposes of political reasons, as well as for many other underlining reasons, they are fighting for the right to become as South African as the real South Africans. They are fighting to be referred to as South Africans. This very same thing happened to the Aboriginals of Australia.

How does the above relate to this idea of "social constructs, social construction?


Help me out here, I am only trying to learn what this social construction B/S seems to be about. :rolleyes:

Ch2tf 04-10-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1427362)
As far as my being called a closet racist and a clown, it doesn't phase me coming from a bunch of wanna be professors and fake scholars. What I have learned is, you are all a team of phonies who keep evaded my question. I asked a question which no one seems to be able to deal with. I wonder why? I am only trying to learn what this social construction B/S seems to be about. :rolleyes:

Sista,
Why are you trying to learn what the "social construction b/s" is all about from the fake scholar-wannabe professor-phonies. Since you think we don't know what we are talking about, why don't you pick up a book and find out for yourself, an intelligent, proactive woman would. If you need some help, some authors to start with are Michael Omni and Howard Winant. Also, Marilyn Halter has a good book about the Cape Verdean-American struggle with race and ethnicity where she touches on the discussion of race being a social construct.

1908Revelations 04-10-2007 03:48 PM

Ch2th...how did you know that you fake wanna be scholar?? J/K

7thSonofOsiris 04-10-2007 04:11 PM

You faker!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1427484)
Sista,
Why are you trying to learn what the "social construction b/s" is all about from the fake scholar-wannabe professor-phonies. Since you think we don't know what we are talking about, why don't you pick up a book and find out for yourself, an intelligent, proactive woman would. If you need some help, some authors to start with are Michael Omni and Howard Winant. Also, Marilyn Halter has a good book about the Cape Verdean-American struggle with race and ethnicity where she touches on the discussion of race being a social construct.

Ch2tf,

From one fake scholar-wannabe professor to another, good chit. You made us look good. :) Whew! I was getting worried that we were losing the battle to an asinine precocious perpetrating clown whose statements are only perniciuos to herself.

7th

DSTCHAOS 04-10-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1427484)
some authors to start with are Michael Omni and Howard Winant

They are wonderful but Sista might get confused if she's having a hard time in this thread. :p

I argue she should start with Joe Feagin and Eduardo Bonilla-Silva. They do introductory level textbooks.

DSTRen13 04-10-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1427498)
They are wonderful but Sista might get confused if she's having a hard time in this thread. :p

I argue she should start with Joe Feagin and Eduardo Bonilla-Silva. They do introductory level textbooks.

Feagin & Feagin was my Sociology of Race & Ethnicity text ... decent book :) However, she still may be confused. And it would probably offend her, besides.

Sista 04-11-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1427484)
Sista,
Why are you trying to learn what the "social construction b/s" is all about from the fake scholar-wannabe professor-phonies. Since you think we don't know what we are talking about, why don't you pick up a book and find out for yourself, an intelligent, proactive woman would. If you need some help, some authors to start with are Michael Omni and Howard Winant. Also, Marilyn Halter has a good book about the Cape Verdean-American struggle with race and ethnicity where she touches on the discussion of race being a social construct.


I was being sarcastic.
I'm not trying to learn anything from you guys concerning social construction.

What I said was just a way to redirect you guys from your calling me names. I figured, have you guys think I want to learn something and then your little egos would stop the name calling and actually come to my aid. None of you guys paid attention to my roll eyse face after the post or you did yet you missed the tone of sarcasm. I am not mad at you guys at all and I hope you are not mad with me.


I think you know what you are talking about, in terms of knowing what you have been taught. I didn't mean at all that what you have been taught seems to be the real deal and therefore I am open to learn more about it. I understand deep down below, what this social construction is all about. That is why I asked you to tell me how is it right or socially acceptable for British settlers to get a way with renaming their self South Africans? It is not right for them to do that and if we let people get away with thinking that because they forced their way into someone else's country and been there for a long time that that makes it okay for them to now say they are original Africans, we would really be setting our self op for future damage.

Social Construction is seems to be a well put together sociological theory that was put together not only for good converstation and food for thought but also to justify the theft of other peoples land and to justify the same rights of the people who first occupied that land. Political rights, rights of ownership to land and so forth. Social Construction, it is a set up.


How many black people do you know that stole land and then wanted to claim they were the originals to that land? If black people went to Europe right now, without even trying to steal the land and just settling there, no way in the world would they be trying to claim original Europenas to that land and if they did, they wouldn't even be able to get away with it.


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