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TSteven 04-18-2006 02:54 PM

2 Duke lacrosse players face rape and kidnap charges
 
By TIM WHITMIRE, Associated Press Writer
April 18, 2006

DURHAM, N.C. (AP) -- Two Duke University lacrosse players were arrested early Tuesday on charges of raping and kidnapping a stripper hired to dance at an off-campus party, and the district attorney said he hopes to charge a third person soon.

The indictments, unsealed Tuesday, did not indicate what possible evidence or arguments led the grand jury Monday to indict *** and ***, both 20. District Attorney Mike Nifong would not discuss the evidence.

Read the article here.

2 Duke lacrosse players face rape and kidnap charges

macallan25 04-18-2006 06:29 PM

Since some are just throwing around the whole "Black vs. White crime statistics" thing....and then getting bitched at for being ignorant and unimformed, I thought I would do some research, because I am bored, to back up the statements.

From the US Justice Department: Bureau of Justice Statistics Publications:

(This can be found on the internet. It is long and takes time to review all the material.)

Each year, some 1.2 million violent crimes involving blacks and whites occur nationwide. In fully 90 percent of those cases, according to U.S. Justice Department figures, the perpetrators are black and the victims are white. Violent white felons choose black victims for fewer than 3 percent of their attacks, whereas violent black felons choose white victims about 56 percent of the time. Statistically, the "average" African American is an astonishing 56 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa. In one recent year, approximately 100 black women were raped by white men; the corresponding number of white women raped by black men was over 20,000.

These are just a few things that I found. Take it or leave it. I come from the school of thought that "facts don't lie."


Quote:

Originally posted by utealum
"Black on white violent crime is much more common than the opposite"

Did you have anything to back this up?


DSTCHAOS 04-18-2006 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by macallan25
I thought I would do some research
*applause*

:)

Tom Earp 04-18-2006 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
*applause*

:)


So, a fact as is reported is so wrong?

Give Yourself a rest. Statistics were shown. So now Yours are more accurate?:confused: Do You have any?

Thanks for not being Bias.:confused:

starang21 04-18-2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, a fact as is reported is so wrong?

Give Yourself a rest. Statistics were shown. So now Yours are more accurate?:confused: Do You have any?

Thanks for not being Bias.:confused:

stop looking into things that aren't there [edit].

macallan25 04-18-2006 11:07 PM

Al Sharpton is on the O'Reilly Factor right now........should be interesting.

ilikehazing 04-19-2006 09:28 AM

Quote:

stop looking into things that aren't there
Silence from the peanut gallery after mccallens showing of facts? No suprise. When Blacks are only 13% of the population but commit over 40% of the violent crimes, it is reasonable to say that a good bit of it would be on whites.

Sharptons a fool, I'm going out on a limb here, but he'll say something about race.

RedVelvet 04-19-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by macallan25
Since some are just throwing around the whole "Black vs. White crime statistics" thing....and then getting bitched at for being ignorant and unimformed, I thought I would do some research, because I am bored, to back up the statements.

From the US Justice Department: Bureau of Justice Statistics Publications:

(This can be found on the internet. It is long and takes time to review all the material.)

Each year, some 1.2 million violent crimes involving blacks and whites occur nationwide. In fully 90 percent of those cases, according to U.S. Justice Department figures, the perpetrators are black and the victims are white. Violent white felons choose black victims for fewer than 3 percent of their attacks, whereas violent black felons choose white victims about 56 percent of the time. Statistically, the "average" African American is an astonishing 56 times more likely to attack a white than vice versa. In one recent year, approximately 100 black women were raped by white men; the corresponding number of white women raped by black men was over 20,000.

These are just a few things that I found. Take it or leave it. I come from the school of thought that "facts don't lie."


Did you actually read the reports yourself or are these statistics an interpretation from another source? New Nation or American Renaissance maybe?

DSTCHAOS 04-19-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by starang21
stop looking into things that aren't there [edit].
Was Tom Earp supposed to be responding to my post?

DSTCHAOS 04-19-2006 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ilikehazing
Silence
For a number of reasons. LOL.

Don't jump out on a limb with this one. :)

valkyrie 04-19-2006 01:05 PM

Here is a link to the 2004 "Persons Arrested" report from the FBI (.pdf). Personally, I'd rather look at the numbers themselves than consider reports from organizations with questionable motives.

According to the FBI, in 2004:

Of all arrestees for violent crimes, 60.4% were white, 28.5% were black, and the remaining 2.5% were of other races.

For all arrests, 70.5% of arrestees were white, 27.1% were black, and 2.4% were other races.

As a side note, 76.2% of arrestees were male and 82.2% of arrestees for violent crimes were male.

AlphaFrog 04-19-2006 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie

Of all arrestees for violent crimes, 60.4% were white, 28.5% were black, and the remaining 2.5% were of other races.

Wait, there's something missing there...that's only 91.4%

What happened to the other 8.6%?

utealum 04-19-2006 01:42 PM

I think the stats got a bit misquoted- the direct quote is..

"A review of the 2004 arrest data
by race indicated that 70.5 percent of
arrestees were white, 27.1 percent were
black, and 2.4 percent were of other races
(American Indian or Alaskan Native
and Asian or Pacific Islander). Of all
arrestees for violent crimes, 60.5 percent
were white, 37.2 percent were black,
and the remainder were of other races."

ilikehazing 04-19-2006 01:45 PM

40% black?

and what, 13-15% of the United States...

hmmm..

is that not what I said earlier?

DSTCHAOS 04-19-2006 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ilikehazing
is that not what I said earlier?
No, it isn't. It is what I said.

Wake me when everyone finishes cutting and pasting statistics.


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