Tomfoolery, the musical revue:

A celebration of the genius of Tom Lehrer (Harvard grad and math professor at Boston's finest colleges and universities). Cameron Mackintosh has taken twenty-eight of Lehrer's greatest songs and added a linking narrative to produce an evening of subtle humorous delights as Lehrer attacks American 'sacred cows', having made sure to milk them thoroughly first!

LOL.

Some people think it's okay to let off "silent but deadlies" in crowds. :(

That's not top tier.

alum, I was using that as an example regardless of age. if my boyfriend's parents would be openminded enough to realize how ridiculous and draconian the liquor laws in this country are, I'd have no problem agreeing with them. Not to mention that telling your bf's parents that they're breaking the law really isn't a way to make points.

Honestly people. It's fabric on a shirt. I hate to go all RainMan on y'all, but the reverence with which some people regard "letters" really does start to border on idolatry.

I think the majority of people who have "issues' with the no drinking in letters rule are those who think that if you're of age, you should be allowed to drink in letters (or, at least your badge.). As my church has nothing against alcohol, I personally wouldn't put 'no drinking' in the same paragraph as "church."

I think her point was clear.

And I wouldn't have accepted a drink from anyone's parents when I was underage. You can politely refuse the drink without climbing on the soapbox and announcing they just suggested you break the law.

To me, the law is the law - not for picking and choosing what I think is ridiculous and what isn't. If you hate it that much, work to change it. I actually agree w/ 33girl here - I think there should be no drinking age. Certainly, anyone who can serve in the military should be able to drink - what does it say for us to insist they're not mature enough to handle a beer, but here, have this gun?

But that's another topic.

Then don't go Rain Man on us. I don't recall anyone implying that they worship their letters.

My organization's symbols are to be respected and any outward expression of membership is to be taken seriously. Being that a large portion of my organization's membership is over the college age, symbol protocol applies to more than to the antics of undergraduates. This is why we have certain protocol on how we should wear symbols and what types of items are inappropriate to place them on. Sure, SOME people take protocol to the extreme and even MAKE UP protocol that isn't "nationally mandated." That's more an issue of interpretation and application and doesn't mean that these entire protocol systems are ridiculous.

I certainly hope your sorority isn't a free-for-all void of rules and regulations for its letters and crest.

I dont fight in my letters.... i politely take them off and put them away then get down wit the get down!


P is to expensive to be replacing because people wanna try to break your line:mad:

I hope you're getting at the age where you choose not to fight. ;)

It takes some of us longer than others. :)

I'm not talking NPHC groups here - like you said, a large portion of your membership is of age to do whatever they want legally. From what I gather, it's impressed upon your members that there is a standard of behavior to be followed at all times, in letters or out. And as far as tacky letter stuff, I completely agree with some of the discussions I've seen on that - I really don't care for the "butt letters" nor would I want to see ASA on toilet paper. :)

I'm referring to stupid things like not having your hair in a ponytail when you wear letters. Much of it is chapter generated and when you get down to it, has NOTHING to do with "respect" - it has more to do with "OMG don't look crappy in letters because then the boys will think we all look crappy and won't want to mix with us and then what will we do! OMG don't drink in letters because then people will think we aren't pure and pristine, but if you want to wear a tube top and mini skirt with no underwear to the bar that's fine!"

The hypocrisy of it is just the thing that kills me. It's like all the brouhaha over Facebook groups. Sorority women of all ages are not perfect and I think it's the arcane rules and regs that drives more people away than the drunken slut stereotypes.

Brouhaha! Carousing! This is my new favorite thread!

You and I have always agreed on this point. :) I don't see this as an issue of idolatry but instead about Greek Life often being the epitome of silly gender norms and stereotypes.

You're right. :) I don't know that "idolatry" was quite the right word, but I couldn't think of a better one.

You were just flirting with Rain Man. :)

dang. my social life is enough of a trainwreck, don't add an electrical storm to it.

Oh Suzy Homemaker, what would we do without you?