Originally Posted by soul_anna4 (Post 1465699)

Maybe someone from MSU can elighten us because I also question the Latino fraternity ties they have, their Spanish motto, and their Spanish founding mothers. In fact, I also see that "multicultural sorority" is not in their official name (Lambda Tau Omega is guilty of this as well), although some local chapters tend to say it does.

Just to add my 4 cents...I believe that national recognition of multicultural status is EXTREMELY important. To me, a true multicultural organization must be deemed so by their national board and not have any affiliations (currently or in the past) to any specific cultures. Programming, membership, and all other efforts must focus on some aspect of multiculturalism, whether it be education of cultures, breaking stereotypes, etc.

Originally Posted by soul_anna4 (Post 1465699)

Just to add my 4 cents...I believe that national recognition of multicultural status is EXTREMELY important. To me, a true multicultural organization must be deemed so by their national board and not have any affiliations (currently or in the past) to any specific cultures. Programming, membership, and all other efforts must focus on some aspect of multiculturalism, whether it be education of cultures, breaking stereotypes, etc.

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1465706)

I believe that Mu Sigma Upsilon is multicultural without being overbearingly so. I don't know, it just seems like folks are going another direction with this....

Originally Posted by soul_anna4 (Post 1465699)

To me, a true multicultural organization must be deemed so by their national board and not have any affiliations (currently or in the past) to any specific cultures. Programming, membership, and all other efforts must focus on some aspect of multiculturalism, whether it be education of cultures, breaking stereotypes, etc.

Originally Posted by Ch2tf (Post 1465883)

I don't want to make any assumptions about what you're saying, so can you elaborate for me?

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1466140)

You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.

Originally Posted by LatinaAlumna (Post 1466145)

But your organization also doesn't "flip/flop" between calling itself an African American fraternity and a Multicultural fraternity. I think this is where the controversy lies within the LGLO and MCGLO community. Exactly!

Perhaps some of the LGLOs and MCGLOs are experiencing an "identity crisis" as they grow (not saying this in a sarcastic way, that's just the best way I can describe it). It's really unfair to aspirants who are searching for the organization they wish to pursue, and unfair to members who joined under a focus that may be completely different now.

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1466140)

An organization doesn't have to have "multicultural" in the title for it to be multicultural enough..... It just sounds like people are getting into a pissing match about which orgs are "multicultural enough." A while back I thought there was a concensus on what an MCGLO was -- a GLO that is multicultural by design and not just by circumstance.

MSU, for example has multicultural programming, traditions, and history -- and they happen to have a bond with a Latino fraternity. I don't see what the big deal is.

You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.

Originally Posted by poeticace (Post 1465719)

I am not at all a member of MSU nor claim to be an expert on the matter, but from what I've heard... some of the confusion may arise because on their ORIGINAL founding, they were a Latina sorority. They later (from what I gather very quickly) changed to a multicultural organization. Why or how this transition occurred? I don't honestly know. Nevertheless, they are still the first multicultural sorority in the nation.

Originally Posted by MSU3CelticSpr06 (Post 1466571)

As far as the ties to Lambda Sigma Upsilon Latino Fraternity, Inc. yes they are our brothers and yes the organization is Latino-based and Latino exclusive. And as far as telling you how we have ties to that org. I can't tell you that b/c that was something that I learned during my process. ;)

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1466140)

An organization doesn't have to have "multicultural" in the title for it to be multicultural enough..... It just sounds like people are getting into a pissing match about which orgs are "multicultural enough." A while back I thought there was a concensus on what an MCGLO was -- a GLO that is multicultural by design and not just by circumstance.

MSU, for example has multicultural programming, traditions, and history -- and they happen to have a bond with a Latino fraternity. I don't see what the big deal is.

You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.

Originally Posted by MSU3CelticSpr06 (Post 1466571)

The founding mothers of Mu Sigma Upsilon decided on "Mujeres Siempre Unidas" because they wanted to stress unity among all women while sticking to the acronym "MSU".

And what's wrong with having 5 founding mothers of Latina descent? They happened to be multiculturally minded. Even though we have many Latina sisters in my organization, we have sisters from many other cultures around the world in my sorority as well.

As far as the ties to Lambda Sigma Upsilon Latino Fraternity, Inc. yes they are our brothers and yes the organization is Latino-based and Latino exclusive. And as far as telling you how we have ties to that org. I can't tell you that b/c that was something that I learned during my process. ;)