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Excelsior301 03-28-2003 12:58 AM

MTV is a trip. I'm watching the episode of Frat Life from last night. The scene at the zoo just came on. The camera zooms in on a No Trespassing Authorized Personnel Only sign but do they stop the guys? Of course not. It will make for greating viewing.
MTV should hold some of the blame at the zoo. It's not like they weren't aware of what was going on. They were standing there taping it

FAB*SpiceySpice 03-28-2003 01:14 AM

I am sooooooo glad Alex broke up with Lindsey, she sucked, it makes me sick to know that there are honestly girls out there who are so dependent on someone else. Get a life of your own sweetheart. :rolleyes:

As for the other pledges, Earl I think needs therapy, Steve needs a nice kick in the ass, Tim is cool, and Paul needs....well.....ME! :D Haha, ok wishful thinking, but he sure is a hottie. ;)

KEPike 03-29-2003 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Excelsior301
MTV is a trip. I'm watching the episode of Frat Life from last night. The scene at the zoo just came on. The camera zooms in on a No Trespassing Authorized Personnel Only sign but do they stop the guys? Of course not. It will make for greating viewing.
MTV should hold some of the blame at the zoo. It's not like they weren't aware of what was going on. They were standing there taping it

Not to mention trespassing themselves.

alphaiota 03-29-2003 11:31 PM

no actually, according to reports (aka articles that have been posted on gc) mtv didn't trespass onto zoo property. they said that mtv shot the footage from outside the fence to the zoo.
still extremely stupid all around. boys......what do you expect. :D

shelley j
sigma k

Lady Pi Phi 03-29-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by alphaiota
no actually, according to reports (aka articles that have been posted on gc) mtv didn't trespass onto zoo property. they said that mtv shot the footage from outside the fence to the zoo.
still extremely stupid all around. boys......what do you expect. :D

shelley j
sigma k


Wouldn't they be considered accessories to a crime then?

alphaiota 03-29-2003 11:38 PM

who knows. it's mtv so they probably are being thanked for catching those evil doer's on camera.

shelley j
sigma k

Lady Pi Phi 03-29-2003 11:47 PM

Oh MTV...can't live with them and G@^ Damn it! Why don't they play music videos?!

sugar and spice 03-30-2003 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Excelsior301
MTV is a trip. I'm watching the episode of Frat Life from last night. The scene at the zoo just came on. The camera zooms in on a No Trespassing Authorized Personnel Only sign but do they stop the guys? Of course not. It will make for greating viewing.
MTV should hold some of the blame at the zoo. It's not like they weren't aware of what was going on. They were standing there taping it

MTV has a hands-off policy when it comes to the things that happen on their reality shows (well, to an extent). I remember "Real World: Hawaii" being a big deal because sending Ruthie to detox was the first time they had ever "intervened" in a filming process during RW. I recall reading an interview with the producers where they said that they had a dilemma between preserving the "unscripted" nature of the show and making sure Ruthie didn't kill herself. I think unless the people they're filming are doing something extremely harmful that can get them killed or kill somebody else, the camera crew/other crew members are not allowed to intervene.

Of course, after Hawaii, RW realized that it could get more viewers by showing drama drama drama all the time, and in doing so, they lost the unscripted nature of the show. But RW Hawaii is the first time that MTV realized that casting for drama and pushing drama along makes for "better" TV (I put better in quotes because I'm inclined to disagree) and more viewers, and without it we probably would never have shows like Sorority Life and Fraternity Life.

33girl 03-30-2003 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Wouldn't they be considered accessories to a crime then?
Speaking of RW Ruthie, that same question came up when they filmed her driving drunk. Not to mention the times they've filmed underagers entering clubs or having fake ID's. I seem to also remember that one of the cast members had a suspended license and they filmed her driving.

DeltAlum or any other media/law pros, what's the deal?

PsychTau 03-30-2003 10:41 PM

MTV (at least the camera crew) may have been smarter than we give them credit for by filming the No Trespassing sign and then filming from OUTSIDE the zoo.

Hmmmmm. . . .:confused:

alphaiota 03-30-2003 11:01 PM

mtv maybe extremely annoying, but they aren't stupid. they knew they couldn't go in or else they would get in trouble too.

shelley j
sigma k

chideltjen 03-31-2003 12:30 AM

well i am mad. i came home to the bay area for the cable so i could catch up on my sorority and fraternity life and all they have been showing this weekend is spring break stuff. :-(

Darn, i missed all the maddness.

greeklawgirl 03-31-2003 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
Wouldn't they be considered accessories to a crime then?
No.

Criminal laws vary from state to state, and I don't recall NY's law off the top of my head, but the Model Penal Code states that to meet the legal definition of an accomplice, he must "solicit, aid, agree to aid, or attempt to aid the crime; or have a legal duty to prevent the commission, but does not."

From the video that I saw (and ONLY from what I saw), I don't think standing outside the zoo and videotaping them meets the legal definition. Nor did MTV have a legal duty to prevent them from entering the zoo.

alphaiota 03-31-2003 04:44 PM

you are so smart. can you help me with my issues concerning my health insurance? no seriously, i need help and you are obviously very smart. pm me

shelley j
sigma k

Dionysus 04-01-2003 10:51 AM

Though I frown upon and disagree with some of the things they do, I think we are being too hard on them. There's not a fraternity (or sorority) I know that hasn't done any stupid pranks like that. Also, the line-ups, push ups, etc. are nothing compared to some of the hazing I both heard of and witnessed myself. There are like any other fraternity in my eyes.


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