Phi Beta Sigma and Zeta Phi Beta
 

Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity and Zeta Phi Beta Sorority are constitutionally bound together as brother and sister organizations. We are the only African- American Greek Letter organization of that nature. Are there any Greeks that have that kind of link?

None of the sororities in the NPC have official relationships with fraternities. Doing so would jeopardize our single-sex status.

It's been noted many times in this thread that organizations have unofficial relationships on a local level, but again, no official relationship on an inter/national level.

OTW is 100% correct. While Delta Gamma (an NPC org) has a "special history" in that George Banta (a member of Phi Delta Theta - an NIC org) was also DG's only-ever male initate, and we owe a lot to Banta for the work that he did for Delta Gamma, Phi Delta Theta is not Delta Gamma's "brother" fraternity (although that phrase gets bandied about).More is revealed here.

Pi Beta Phi-Beta Theta Pi
 

Traditionally from the first pi phi house and Beta Theta Pi house, beta's and pi phi's have been considered brother and sister colonies. You can check it by googling the history, but I was lucky enough to meet alumni who know a lot about the history of both houses.

One problem with the whole official brother/sister chapters is that here we have Pi Phis but we don't have a Beta Theta Pi. Would Pi Phi have to help colonize a beta chapter here just so they could officially have a brother frat? That's the problem with nationally recognizing it, I think it's nice that we kinda decide on our own which chapters we're closer with.

THERE ARE NO BROTHER/SISTER GLOS. PERIOD.

Hence the traditionally part, When in fact there are both chapters on a campus, in past years for over a 100 years, Beta, and Pi Phi's have been considered brother sister. However, that doesn't mean every single campus has it the same way, its just how its been. And as an unspoken fact, that's just how it was. If you look far back enough in your fraternity's history you may find the same thing where you and a sorority have a longer tradition than other greek chapters.

Hmm...I'm curious to hear what the Pi Phis think of your claim.

Fraternity tradition =/= campus tradition. Just because XYZ Fraternity and ABC Sorority have been on campus for a long time, they are not officially brother and sister sorority.

Please don't make an attempt to educate me on my Fraternity history. I'd suggest doing the same for other organizations that aren't your own.

The problem is that tradition is not constitution or bylaws, and a lot of people can't tell the difference. So, it's better to just not repeat these "traditions" at all.

Why are you making it such a big deal. I didn't say its like that anymore, nor did I say that abc sorority should be close with XYZ Fraternity, I said in the past thats how it was, and that Beta and Pi Phi have had a history, it doesn't mean that's how its supposed to be. Every school is different just like every chapter of fraternities and sororities are different.

at my school there arent like official sororities/fraternities that are brother and sister
but social chairs set up swaps with most(if not all) and you get big brothers in each*unless there are issues between the chapters*

Why oh why must we bump threads like these?

Is it not apparent that this was a trainwreck the first time? Must we add another train to the pile?