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UVA17 06-25-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2222581)
WTH is "the Official Persecuted Blacks"? How do you tow such a thing? Is it another tugboat?

It's obvious that you are not from around here. Sit down, take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth.

Read Two Nations: Black and White, Separate, Hostile, Unequal by Andrew Hacker before you come back and post anything else.

Ah yes, calling attention to a typo. Last bastion of those who really don't have anything else to say.

Andrew Hacker? Already read it. Typical white apologist dribble. Am I supposed to listen to him on the basis of his whiteness? Hack, indeed :rolleyes:

UVA17 06-25-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KDCat (Post 2222589)
Books could be written on what I didn't know about race in America as an 18 year old white girl.

That's the beauty of being able to pass for either when the mood strikes. And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

DrPhil 06-25-2013 09:42 PM

Paula Deen, ya'llllllllllll:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/di...anted=all&_r=0

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/201...rther-crumbles

And since I can't think of another place to announce this on GC, the documentary "Dark Girls" is re-airing on OWN at 10:00pm EST. I am about to watch it in 15 minutes. These are not sob stories, these are true stories.

http://officialdarkgirlsmovie.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3478913.html

SWTXBelle 06-25-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UVA17 (Post 2222600)
That's the beauty of being able to pass for either when the mood strikes. And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

I am going to give you a very good piece of advice. I would strongly suggest you dial back the insults - as a pnm who has already posted identifying information on this site you really don't want to run the risk of insulting long-time GreekChatters who 1.) have mad detective skills and 2.) have contacts like you wouldn't believe. You would not be the first pnm to think she was unidentifiable and "bulletproof" to be left wondering why her recruitment came to a crashing halt on the day she was dropped by all the chapters.

MysticCat 06-25-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UVA17 (Post 2222595)
Ah yes, calling attention to a typo. Last bastion of those who really don't have anything else to say.

No. The last bastion of those who don't really have anything to say is actually name-calling. You know, like
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Originally Posted by UVA17 (Post 2222571)
Oh Phil, Phil, Phil. You are such a closed-minded dolt.

or
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Originally Posted by UVA17 (Post 2222600)
And there are no doubt still books that could be written on what you don't know as a menopausal shrew.

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2222603)
I am going to give you a very good piece of advice. I would strongly suggest you dial back the insults - as a pnm who has already posted identifying information on this site you really don't want to run the risk of insulting long-time GreekChatters who 1.) have mad detective skills and 2.) have contacts like you wouldn't believe.

Not to mention the very real possibility that sorority members from the school she'll be attending could well be reading this thread and forming opinions based on the insults.

StealthMode 06-25-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2222601)

How did I miss the part about pornography in the kitchen? :confused: What was THAT about?

SN: I've been meaning to see "Dark Girls" for awhile now. I tried to see it a showing at a conference but it was sold out both nights. However, I could do without the "Darker is better" and "I hope my children are dark like pharaohs and queens because you can't look like royalty being light as hell" comments. Um we all descended from the same royalty so back up off my lite brite. But that's for another thread entirely.

SWTXBelle 06-25-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode (Post 2222607)
How did I miss the part about pornography in the kitchen? :confused: What was THAT about?

Have you read Anthony Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential"?!

DrPhil 06-25-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode (Post 2222607)
SN: I've been meaning to see "Dark Girls" for awhile now. I tried to see it a showing at a conference but it was sold out both nights. However, I could do without the "Darker is better" and "I hope my children are dark like pharaohs and queens because you can't look like royalty being light as hell" comments. Um we all descended from the same royalty so back up off my lite brite. But that's for another thread entirely.

It is a really good, but tremendously sad, documentary. It makes me think of things from my childhood and things from my adulthood.

The documentary is not about "darker is better" (but of course humans tend to operate on extremes and have a difficult time balancing. Of course, people will think it makes sense to combat "black is ugly" with "black is beautiful" and eventually "black is the ONLY beautiful thing."). The documentary is about why most African-Americans have a social-psychological struggle with this. One girl said she used to come home and wash her skin to get the "black off." She used to hate her father because she has his skin complexion. A woman said she used to beg her mother to put bleach in the bath tub so she could whiten her skin everyday. Unfortunately, there are people around the world who bleach their skin, including Reggae artist Vybz Kartel and Sammy Sosa.

This documentary also speaks to why various races, ethnicities, and cultures around the world have struggled with issues of skin complexion, hair texture, and body features. Some European ethnicities have also struggled with this.

ETA: StealthMode, they just showed the part of the documentary in which two Black men said they preferred darker Black women. One man said he wants his children to be darker like pharoahs and queens. Then he said "I'm being real ignorant right now" so he knew he was talking crazy. LOL.


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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2222611)
Have you read Anthony Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential"?!

Random: I love Bourdain's CNN show.

IrishLake 06-25-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2222498)
Oh for crying out loud. Casual racism is a real thing, folks.

A FB friend "shared" an Asian Interpretation meme the other day. I wouldn't be surprised to see that from an 11 year old middle schooler. I was surprised to see it from a 33 year old woman. I just commented "Really?" She replied "Lighten up! It's a joke." SMDH.

IrishLake 06-25-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2222594)

Books are being written about what I continue to learn about these topics. :D

Are they getting published? I want to buy an autographed copy, please. :)

AZTheta 06-25-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UVA17 (Post 2222595)
Ah yes, calling attention to a typo. Last bastion of those who really don't have anything else to say.

Andrew Hacker? Already read it. Typical white apologist dribble. Am I supposed to listen to him on the basis of his whiteness? Hack, indeed :rolleyes:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

ETA: Kitchen porn? Oh.

Old_Row 06-25-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 2222603)
I am going to give you a very good piece of advice. I would strongly suggest you dial back the insults - as a pnm who has already posted identifying information on this site you really don't want to run the risk of insulting long-time GreekChatters who 1.) have mad detective skills and 2.) have contacts like you wouldn't believe. You would not be the first pnm to think she was unidentifiable and "bulletproof" to be left wondering why her recruitment came to a crashing halt on the day she was dropped by all the chapters.

Oh I don't think she really has to worry about this meanness not being shared already. It's very nice when PNMs show people who they really are before recruitment!

AOII Angel 06-26-2013 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K (Post 2222496)
Thanks y'all.


I hope you're not surprised by that.




Not at all but still saddened.

AOII Angel 06-26-2013 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta (Post 2222627)
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

ETA: Kitchen porn? Oh.

You are on a roll.

I'm just wondering if she's attempting to insult members of every sorority on UVA's campus? She's gotten KD and Theta down...14 more to go! She can see what it's like to "tow" that line when recruitment comes round.

StealthMode 06-26-2013 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2222612)
The documentary is about why most African-Americans have a social-psychological struggle with this.

I do want to see it because it is a subject that I want to incorporate into my research. It's incredibly intriguing and incredibly heartbreaking.
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She used to hate her father because she has his skin complexion.
Unfortunately, a young man I once dated had a similar complex. His father (who abandoned him) was light skinned with gray eyes. He simultaneously was attracted to light skin (both in the women he dated and wishing he had it himself) and made borderline insulting comments about it, too. Of course, his resentment against light-skin had little to do with the skin and signified a deeper issue with his dad, but he came to associate dark skin with not being worth anything or worth keeping around. :( This was the same young man who said one of the things he loved best about me was my "good hair." :rolleyes: I'm almost laughing remembering the look on his face. I'm sure he was expecting me to say "Thank you" rather than the...er....passionate...reaction I had.


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ETA: StealthMode, they just showed the part of the documentary in which two Black men said they preferred darker Black women. One man said he wants his children to be darker like pharoahs and queens. Then he said "I'm being real ignorant right now" so he knew he was talking crazy. LOL.
So thaaaaaat's where the FB status originated.


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