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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1820443)

I also love how every Dr. who has ever treated him or prescribed him anything is now on the news talking about how many meds he was taking and how dangerous it is. Would have been nice for someone to have said something about it while he was alive. I'm not sure he would have listened though.

Maybe they did - we don't know what his doctors said to him, whether he listened to their treatment instructions, and we probably never will know for sure.

I do think it's a bit sketchy for someone's doctors to start speaking publically about one of their patients, even after their death.

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1820446)

I do think it's a bit sketchy for someone's doctors to start speaking publically about one of their patients, even after their death.

I completely agree. Does the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement go out the window upon the patient's death? (That's a serious question - I really don't know.)

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1820529)

I completely agree. Does the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement go out the window upon the patient's death? (That's a serious question - I really don't know.)

I'm not sure, although I would imagine not. I know that it's an open question in some states whether attorney-client confidentiality ends. I would imagine that in the medical context, confidentiality still stands (except in cases of medical proxies, autopsies, and for research purposes cleared by the patient).

One of the MDs on site (BigRedBeta or AOIIAlum) would know better than I would, though.

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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1820233)

Most folks that we admire and celebrate have all kinds of skeletons in their closets. Michael Jackson is no different.

Yeah, he had monkey skeletons in his closest though. I haven't seen bubbles in years. Have you?

So various gossip blogs are reporting that Evan Chandler is coming forward now and saying that his molestation allegations were lies (and that his dad, Jordan Chandler, coerced him into making them). I don't know how much truth there is to that at this time though.

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1820614)

That is soooooooo not cool to lie about shizz like that if what the gossip blogs are saying is true

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1820434)

Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?

nope.

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1820614)

I believe him (this time). I never thought Michael was guilty of doing anything to him. I felt like it was a ploy all along to get money.

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1820434)

Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?

I don't think so either. My reasoning would probably be considered very controversial though.

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1820241)

I was going back and forth with a group of friends about this, and this is what I wrote:

"The Michael Jackson that many people are mourning has been gone for about 15 years. Nearly everyone has memories of Michael Jackson songs and videos for years before the molestation claims came to light; as someone on NPR said this morning, there's not a Michael Jackson hit that doesn't invoke memories. You remember where you were in your life when "Beat It," "Bad," or "Black or White" was popular. It's probably how our parents felt when John Lennon and Marvin Gaye died. Someone who created the soundtrack to our youth--our wonder years, as it were--is dead, and it reminds us that much more that we're getting older and we're going to die too, regardless of how they actually died.

In other words, the Michael Jackson I and at least a billion other people around the world are mourning is not the one who called his son "Blanket," who was rumored to have purchased the Elephant Man's skeleton, or the one who, as we now know, was addled with painkillers since his brush with death back in the 80s. We are mourning the little kid and the dance machine--in other words, the talented and charismatic entertainer.

It's not my place to determine the veracity of the molestation claims, but I could honestly see them going either way. I'm not a Michael Jackson fan per se; I've never purchased one of his albums, a concert ticket, or a glittery glove. That said, when I heard that he had taken ill and later died, the MJ from "Billie Jean" and the Jackson 5 popped in my head, not the pale, plastic shell of that person who he became in his later years. I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of mourners are seeing that person. He's kind of like Elvis that way."

I have to slightly disagree. I think the Michael Jackson we are mourning was still there. Even to the end he was a phenomenal entertainer... despite the allegations of molestation and the situation involving his children.

I think it should be noted that some of the strange rumors that were circulating concerning MJ over the years happened to be crazy rumors he put out himself. I also have this feeling that some of the things MJ did that were considered bizarre were just his way of f#$%%^& with everyone because they followed his EVERY move. MJ had more of a sense of humor than people realize.

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Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1820532)

I'm not sure, although I would imagine not. I know that it's an open question in some states whether attorney-client confidentiality ends.

In my jurisdiction, it goes to the grave (of the attorney).

There's no question.

At any rate, I don't know the facts here, but assuming that these docs were indiscriminately supplying this guy with meds, some licenses should be pulled.

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1820434)

Am I the only one who never believed (and I still don't) that those kids are biologically his?

Nope. We were just talking about that this morning at work. Some believe they were born via in vitro, but I don't believe even that.

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Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1820529)

I completely agree. Does the doctor/patient confidentiality agreement go out the window upon the patient's death? (That's a serious question - I really don't know.)

Hmmm....I looked it up briefly and all I could gather was that the confidentiality agreement does extend after death, but for how long varies among areas.

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Originally Posted by Kevin (Post 1820644)

I won't go into all of it, because I'm writing a fairly extensive paper on the topic this summer...but the short of it is that in some states, it only goes to the grave of the client. It's an interesting question (probably why I'm devoting all of these hours to writing about it).

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1820285)

I freaking hate when people pander to the camera while they are "grieving."

You're not alone. The carnival atmosphere that occurs when a celebrity - or even a classmate - dies really disgusts me. Flowers, candles, teddy bears - please! Give them to a children's hospital, or someone else who can really use them.

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So last night I went to a benefit for a theater, and there was dancing involved. The DJ was playing a lot of MJ songs. The dancing was hilarious because it was really a cross section of all walks of life at this event. There was this middle aged, weird white guy wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt who was trying to do a lot of MJ moves. Some were good, others looked like he was doing tae-bo

Then Thriller comes on. (we had actually started to leave, but ran back in to witness the trainwreck that was sure to ensue). At first, we were very disappointed that sweatpants guy doesn't know the dance to Thriller. Young guy across the dance floor, who has been one of those dancing-show-offs all evening (you know the guys, the ones that always have to be the center of the circle) actually knows the moves and starts doing them.

Sweatpants guy doesn't like someone taking the spotlight off him. So he proceeds to begin an honest-to-God dance off with young guy. He is getting all in his face with his "dance" moves/tae bo. Young guy plays along (if I were him I would've punched the idiot for getting in my face). They are totally having a dance battle.

Funniest thing I have ever seen in my life. Straight out of some cheesy movie, but the guys involved were so not cool!

MJ, bringing all ages, races and walks of life together with their terrible dance moves!