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ladylike 05-05-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by sensa_diva
CTF...

Don't be tooo sure that ms jade wont be the next ANTM....Remember that BS Tyra pulled last season...:confused:

And the season before that. (Naima...ugh!)

ms_gwyn 05-05-2006 02:18 PM

Even though I want the top two to be Danielle and Joanie...I don't think that Joanies has it sewn up yet....they still don't see "model" in front of the judges table and they want to her to be a model in front of the table and in the pictures..

Jade, JUST NEEDS TO GO....

Sara...she may have an outside chance is she learns, not to be uncomfortable and be herself .......

Danielle, I think that its hers to loose...just soften the accent a bit and she's got it.....

Gold 05-05-2006 04:39 PM

I agree. I don't think Danielle should change her accent just soften it. Her accent makes her unique and she represents the south.

Tyra contradicts herself alot. On one end she say - be yourself - then on the other end she says - be commercial so you can fit it.

What is a girl to do.

ladylike 05-05-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by ms_gwyn

Danielle, I think that its hers to loose...just soften the accent a bit and she's got it.....

It's interesting that Trya tells Danielle to lose the accent, yet she doesn't give the girl tools to do so. Unless I've missed it, I've yet to see a speech coach featured. Tyra knew Danielle sounded like country gravy when she picked her to be on the show. :rolleyes:

laylo 05-06-2006 04:10 PM

Furthermore, did anyone say anything about Nnenna's accent? No. They only ever have a problem if the girl does something they percieve as "ghetto", and southern is the same thing to them.

lilbay77 05-06-2006 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by laylo
Furthermore, did anyone say anything about Nnenna's accent? No. They only ever have a problem if the girl does something they percieve as "ghetto", and southern is the same thing to them.

Good point.

SKEEphistAKAte 05-06-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by ladylike
Tyra knew Danielle sounded like country gravy when she picked her to be on the show. :rolleyes:
LOL@ "country gravy".

CrimsonTide4 05-06-2006 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by laylo
Furthermore, did anyone say anything about Nnenna's accent? No. They only ever have a problem if the girl does something they percieve as "ghetto", and southern is the same thing to them.
Very good point.

dstdoll97 05-06-2006 10:39 PM

That is a good point.

I'm just going to keep it real. Jade's stank attitude makes her look draggish and hard. She should have been gone 2 weeks ago.

Danielle does take beautiful pictures. She should win but I guess we'll see...... After last season's pick I guess anything's possible. :confused: :D

unknown2u 05-07-2006 02:24 AM

I have a strange feeling that Jade will win...

NoChaser3 05-07-2006 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by laylo
Furthermore, did anyone say anything about Nnenna's accent? No. They only ever have a problem if the girl does something they percieve as "ghetto", and southern is the same thing to them.
Um...no one said anything about Nnenna's accent because her accent didn't make it hard to understand what she was saying. She didn't slur her words together and twang when she talked. Let's keep it real - a southern accent is one thing, slurring and twanging is another. There are models with southern accents - Andie McDowell for example...she's from the south. But she doesn't slur and twang.

On the real - Danielle needs to tighten it up. It's not that they perceive it as "ghetto" - it's that she needs to speak more clearly, instead of sounding like she has a mouth full of sunflower seeds.


NoChaser3 05-07-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by ladylike
It's interesting that Trya tells Danielle to lose the accent, yet she doesn't give the girl tools to do so. Unless I've missed it, I've yet to see a speech coach featured. Tyra knew Danielle sounded like country gravy when she picked her to be on the show. :rolleyes:
She doesn't need a speech coach. She just needs to make an effort to think before she speaks, and then speak more clearly. Shoot, Tyra already fixed her teeth - is she supposed to be Pygmalion?? Tyra also knew Sara couldn't model when she picked her to be on the show...she knew that the first ANTM Yohanna couldn't walk...but during the course of the show, they LEARN and IMPROVE.

Danielle needs to make an effort ON HER OWN to improve her speech. That's how real WINNERS roll. I think she can do it, if she makes an effort. CLEARLY she has not even TRIED to improve her speech.

All Danielle needs to do to win is practice her speech. Shyt, rent "My Fair Lady" and practice saying, "The rain in Spain stays mainly on the plain." Just do SOMETHING.

MightyQuinn 05-07-2006 11:31 AM

Okay, the show just aired last night so I'm sure there has been a million comments already but why did I get a headache laughing at Furonda doing her version of the Thai dance? Hayle, I'm laughing right now just typing about it! My husband thought I was watching Dave Chappelle the way I was cracking up!

At first I was on Jade's side since she is a fellow New Yorker but that ended during the very first episode as soon as she opened her mouth. As much as everyone wants to see her go I have a feeling she will be in the top 2 because she makes this season pop. I wish I could see more behind the scenes clips because I know Jade says way more arrogrant crap than what is shown to the viewing audience. I would also love to see Danielle win but her speech will be her downfall. I agree with who ever said it's not her accent it's the way she re-mixes the words! I don't think there is enough time to get it to the point where the judges want it to be especially if she isn't even trying. The only one's left that are even on my radar are Jade and Danielle so one of them needs to win- I will keep my fingers crossed. :D

laylo 05-07-2006 01:46 PM

In the last delliberation, Tyra and Nigel specifically said "She needs to be a little less ghetto." And if you think back, you can see other examples of this, such as Sarah (season 2) simply using the words "we'll hook you up" to sell a product--afterwards they said she had done well until she went into the ghetto thing.

I think its interesting that some people have trouble understanding Danielle, because I've never had any trouble understanding her, although I might if I had never spent time in the south. This confirms my belief that the problem is dialect and not clarity.

NoChaser3 05-07-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by laylo
In the last delliberation, Tyra and Nigel specifically said "She needs to be a little less ghetto." And if you think back, you can see other examples of this, such as Sarah (season 2) simply using the words "we'll hook you up" to sell a product--afterwards they said she had done well until she went into the ghetto thing.

I think its interesting that some people have trouble understanding Danielle, because I've never had any trouble understanding her, although I might if I had never spent time in the south. This confirms my belief that the problem is dialect and not clarity.
Yeah, and season 2 Sarah using the words "we'll hook you up" to sell a product WAS ghetto. Tyra ain't lyin.

I have no problem understanding Danielle either. But I just happen to understand unclear, country azz speech...and so do you, it seems. The bolded above is why Danielle needs to work it out - it's not Down South's Next Top Model. Cover Girl commercials are national - they need a model who everyone can understand...ESPECIALLY the judges.

They're not saying that Danielle is ghetto because she has a country accent. They're saying that talking like you have a mouth full of rocks is ghetto, and when you are slurring and twanging on top of that, it's even worse. Her pics are keeping her in the game...now she needs to step up her speaking ability.

You're tryin' to make it too deep. It isn't that deep, really.

laylo 05-07-2006 02:50 PM

I don't think that pointing out my observation is making it deeper than it is. You seem to agree with the judges, while I do not. I acknowledge cultural traits as just that--cultural, neither negative nor positive. I observe that dominant cultures are seen as better than marginal ones, inciting praise or scolding. I don't think twang or using the phrase "hook you up" are bad or wrong. Nor do I believe that the cultures they come from are not marketable, because they are consumed like wildfire every day by a vast White majority.

33girl 05-08-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by NoChaser3
There are models with southern accents - Andie McDowell for example...she's from the south. But she doesn't slur and twang.


When Andie McDowell first got into acting, she was in an update of "Tarzan" and apparently her accent was so thick Glenn Close had to dub her lines for her. No one cared previously, because all she had to do was MODEL - as in be in pictures and walk runways and never open her mouth. This isn't what ANTM is (or should I say has become). It's a tryout for the next spokeswoman for Cover Girl. If this was really just about modeling, no one would care if Danielle even spoke English. I doubt that any of those Eastern European girls that are the rage right now talk like William F. Buckley.

FWIW, I have no problem understanding her, but then again I speak Pittsburghese which baffles many people. :)

Gold 05-08-2006 10:42 AM

I think everyone makes a good point about how Danielle's speech is perceived - ghetto or not ghetto.

I don't think that she is ghetto, she is just country. I think she exaggerates her accent more than she needs to. If she was on a professional interview, we would not want her to speak that way.

I think Tyra is trying to make the point that models are not just pretty faces on a picture, they are smart, intelligent and ARTICULATE women. This is even more important for a Black woman/model because I am sure the industry already has placed a stigma or a Black model as being a "diva" or "b!tc$"

The bottomline is - she can make an effort to speak more clearly than she does.

RBL 05-08-2006 12:18 PM

CLASSIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghe6v...search=furonda

Gold 05-08-2006 02:53 PM

LOL!!!!

One thing I can say is that she definitely has confidence, but she looks like a plum fool!!!!

DSTinguished1 05-08-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by NoChaser3
Um...no one said anything about Nnenna's accent because her accent didn't make it hard to understand what she was saying. She didn't slur her words together and twang when she talked. Let's keep it real - a southern accent is one thing, slurring and twanging is another. There are models with southern accents - Andie McDowell for example...she's from the south. But she doesn't slur and twang.

On the real - Danielle needs to tighten it up. It's not that they perceive it as "ghetto" - it's that she needs to speak more clearly, instead of sounding like she has a mouth full of sunflower seeds.


My gosh I love when you post Soror! It always makes me laugh.;) :D

DSTinguished1 05-08-2006 04:21 PM

My comments

Furonda is SILLY. I mean if you could not remember what to do, watch the other girls and get an idea of what they were doing. Half of that stuff you knew was just plain ol wrong. I never found her to be funny, she just seemed to be slow and weird to me. My friend calls her "Ferocious"

With regards to Danielle, I understand what Tyra is saying. Apparantly, Tyra is trying to prepare them to get jobs in the modeling business so if she knows that there is something that may limit a model, I understand her for pointing that out.

HOWEVER, Tyra has the ability and the power to change the modeling game. Many people have came and change the game of modeling with new looks, new style and personalities. Sometimes I wish I could see a variety of models including country talking models. I think Danielle's personality and flavor would spice it up and draw a different type of audience. Her down-home southern charm can be appealing to some people. I just think they need to use variety instead of the same type of people.

I don't think her accent/twang is ghetto at all. I can understand Danielle very well. There are some times where she may need to prounouciate better, but I think ALL the models can work on that.

Miss. Mocha 05-08-2006 05:08 PM

Can Sarah please be voted off this week? I'm saying, let's get down to business.

NoChaser3 05-08-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
When Andie McDowell first got into acting, she was in an update of "Tarzan" and apparently her accent was so thick Glenn Close had to dub her lines for her.
Jane was supposed to be from England, not Alabama - that's probably why they dubbed her...not because her thick Southern accent was unintelligible, but because it was wrong for that part.

Just like Danielle's slurring and twanging with a mouth full of rocks is not right for Cover Girl commercials.

She's either going to learn how to speak more clearly, or get cut, basically.

NoChaser3 05-08-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by Miss. Mocha
Can Sarah please be voted off this week? I'm saying, let's get down to business.
I like Sara...I think Jade should be the next to go.

Neosoulchild 05-08-2006 06:29 PM

Aside from on the show (and those boring "My Life as a Cover Girl" snippets), has anyone even seen a winner on a Cover Girl commercial?

lilbay77 05-08-2006 07:03 PM

I know one thing, if Jade wins, I will never watch with show again!


















maybe.

CrimsonTide4 05-08-2006 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Neosoulchild
Aside from on the show (and those boring "My Life as a Cover Girl" snippets), has anyone even seen a winner on a Cover Girl commercial?
Nope.

And lilbay stop lying, lmao.:p

lilbay77 05-08-2006 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Nope.

And lilbay stop lying, lmao.:p

lol!:p

CrimsonTide4 05-10-2006 08:10 PM

Danielle, LOL @ her to the man in the taxi.

1browngirl 05-10-2006 08:13 PM

what in the world has danielle been doing??? she's only been to one go see!

CrimsonTide4 05-10-2006 08:15 PM

Well at least all of them are late getting back.

I cringed when Danielle had to be told to take her shoes off. :o

FeeFee 05-10-2006 08:18 PM

Were they stuck in traffic? :confused:

CrimsonTide4 05-10-2006 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by FeeFee
Were they stuck in traffic? :confused:
All of them but Jade were late in traffic.

JADE, YO AZZ is stank!

RBL 05-10-2006 08:20 PM

Dang...no winners

1browngirl 05-10-2006 08:21 PM

Dang, Danielle wins but she doesn't get the reward :(

CrimsonTide4 05-10-2006 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by 1browngirl
Dang, Danielle wins but she doesn't get the reward :(
I know. That sucks. :(

FeeFee 05-10-2006 08:23 PM

I felt Danielle's pain @ not being able to take the wardrobe.

I wanna punch Jade in her throat. :mad: :mad:

CrimsonTide4 05-10-2006 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by FeeFee
I felt Danielle's pain @ not being able to take the wardrobe.

I wanna punch Jade in her throat. :mad: :mad:

Me too.

That villa is beautiful.

I love Danielle's attitude. She is not taking sides. She's just her.

1browngirl 05-10-2006 08:30 PM

JADE PLEASE STHU!!!!!! Everything you do is so fake! :mad:


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