I totally agree with you Chaos! I know people will disagree with me, but I don't think that Ledger's Joker lived up to the hype. It wasn't "lets go see Batman," it was "let's see Ledger play The Joker." And although he was good(even great), I didn't think he was "OMG" spectacular.

If Ledger hadn't passed away, do you think there would be so much emphasis on The Joker?

and since we are doing spoilers now, does anyone know if Two-Face is coming back? Yes, he was knocked off that building & it seemed like he was dead....but you know these movies. Just when you think the person is dead, the next 'episode' comes out and VIOLA, the person shows up alive. I can totally see Two-Face coming back.

I've read that Two-Face is supposed to be the main villain in the next movie, but I think that could easily be incorrect or change.

I've also read that Catwoman is to have a role in the next movie. Again, could be pure rumor.

if you could, please locate where you read the above when you can. While we did "see" gordon "die", we also saw the reason and his "rebirth". we saw two face die as well as the memorial services for him. while the continuation of the character would have been rather nice, seems as if for some reason unknown to us the writers desired to end that thread. i am not aware of a second two-face.

catwoman could make sense and would be rather interesting as part of plot in which batman is the hunted rather than the hunter.

He needs to come back! :)

Plus, he was on some superhuman stuff to be able to walk about without half of his face like that. Certainly a fall off a building won't kill him!!!!


I predict that Scarecrow will get out of jail, TwoFace will come back, and they will get The Joker out of his holding cell. Then they'll hook up with some other bad guys and whoop that raspy lisp out of Bale's Batman.

I don't mind Catwoman coming back as long as it isn't that nonacting Halle Berry. :rolleyes:

There was a line in the movie which I thought was a nod to a future reprisal of the Catwoman role. Does anyone remember what it was? I can't for the life of me even remember who said it, although I think it was Bruce Wayne. At any rate, the first thing I thought of after that particular line was that it was foreshadowing.

I agree (about Two-Face coming back). If you think The Joker should come back in the next movie...who do you think could play him?

I see Two-Face and the Riddler (i still like Jim Carey! I think he totally pull off a real sinister Riddler) teaming up.

I vote for Batgirl instead of Catwoman!! lol

I found where I read it. It was all on the Wikipedia page for the Batman film franchise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_...ries%29#Future

It suggests that The Riddler as well as Catwoman could be potential characters. It also suggests that Nolan doesn't want to use the Penguin or Robin. And that some other producer doesn't want to use Catwoman. So who knows? As far as Two-Face goes, it says that Eckhart is confirmed for the third movie, but if you go to the source link about it, it is just a statement from Eckhart that he would love to appear in the third movie. Again, who knows?

no...no telling...and they really don't say he is 'dead'

unlike smallville, this film series seems to be following the original canon rather closely. i just do not see the writers hitting the viola reset button. for reasons known currently only to them, they seem to have desired to end that thread. while there was a reason shown to cover up gordon's life, i just to know see any reason that a viewer of the film should have any belief that two face is still above the ground. and i am still wondering just why tiny lester had that much screen time at end.

added thought: as a paying viewer, i would feel used if in two years the next movie had that dent/two face was alive but it was covered up so the public would not learn the truth behind the da. and then of course the truth comes out anyway.

Riddler is too campy of a character, either you make him too much like the Joker or he's too silly.

And they had Barbara Gordon right there on the screen and you didn't see her face! Batgirl for the win.

Also, Two-Face is dead. Not coming back.

THANK YOU!!!

And I still say Carey sucks because he acted like he did in The Mask and other movies. Not a good balance between sinister and silly.

Don't be such a hater. My boo is coming back. :p

Someone had an idea earlier of, if you want to make him sinister, make him similar to Jigsaw in the Saw movies....I don't see that as a bad idea considering teh Joker was just as campy back in the day.

We have enough Saw and Hostel movies, though.

If they take Batman that route, which they may have to do since the next The Joker will be scrutinized for not being Ledger, they need not turn it into a gruesome horror flick.

I hope Bale's Batman is the first one to get a rusty nail through his voice box.

Batman: The Silent Knight