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jon1856 05-04-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1644995)
why would you hope for a terrorist act....?

I am hoping for peace.
However, I do fear that something else will take its place.

jon1856 05-07-2008 04:29 PM

Bell 'Prayer Protests' Attempt To Disrupt City Traffic
 
Bell 'Prayer Protests' Attempt To Disrupt City Traffic
NEW YORK - Crowds of protesters are marching around the city Wednesday as they engage in civil disobedience in response to the acquittals of three detectives in the killing of Sean Bell.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24507755/

Sharpton plans to get arrested
After blasting President Bush and the nation's immigration policy Sunday, the Rev. Al Sharpton said he plans to get arrested in New York on Wednesday as part of a civil disobedience demonstration to protest the Sean Bell verdict.
Sharpton, the Brooklyn-born civil rights activist, said he plans to get arrested at One Police Plaza at 3 p.m. to protest last month's acquittals of three New York police detectives in the 50-shot barrage that killed Bell, who was unarmed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24461822/

Detectives To Fight Civil Rights Charges Over Bell Verdict
NEW YORK - The union representing three detectives cleared in the slaying of Sean Bell are in Washington, D.C., Wednesday to oppose federal civil rights charges against the officers. Michael Palladino, president of the Detectives' Endowment Association, will meet with Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-Manhattan) in two separate meetings.
The talks will happen about the same time that protesters fan out across Manhattan and Brooklyn to decry last month?s acquittals. Demonstrators, led by the Rev. Al Sharpton, will engage in civil disobedience and expect to get arrested.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24502743/

DSTCHAOS 05-07-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646771)
Bell 'Prayer Protests' Attempt To Disrupt City Traffic
NEW YORK - Crowds of protesters are marching around the city Wednesday as they engage in civil disobedience in response to the acquittals of three detectives in the killing of Sean Bell.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24507755/

GOOD!

This prayer protest has been all over the media so people who don't have their heads in their asses should've known there would be disruption. But...where's the riot resulting from the terrorist threat? :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646771)
Sharpton plans to get arrested
After blasting President Bush and the nation's immigration policy Sunday, the Rev. Al Sharpton said he plans to get arrested in New York on Wednesday as part of a civil disobedience demonstration to protest the Sean Bell verdict.
Sharpton, the Brooklyn-born civil rights activist, said he plans to get arrested at One Police Plaza at 3 p.m. to protest last month's acquittals of three New York police detectives in the 50-shot barrage that killed Bell, who was unarmed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24461822/

GOOD! The planning to get arrested thing is nothing new in civil protests.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646771)
Detectives To Fight Civil Rights Charges Over Bell Verdict
NEW YORK - The union representing three detectives cleared in the slaying of Sean Bell are in Washington, D.C., Wednesday to oppose federal civil rights charges against the officers. Michael Palladino, president of the Detectives' Endowment Association, will meet with Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-Manhattan) in two separate meetings.
The talks will happen about the same time that protesters fan out across Manhattan and Brooklyn to decry last month?s acquittals. Demonstrators, led by the Rev. Al Sharpton, will engage in civil disobedience and expect to get arrested.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24502743/

BAD.

jon1856 05-07-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1646778)
GOOD!

This prayer protest has been all over the media so people who don't have their heads in their asses should've known there would be disruption. But...where's the riot resulting from the terrorist threat? :eek:



Besides the following from the story; it is also matinée Wednesday in NYC's theater district.
As well as start of rush hour in the area.
Just heard a report that most of the B&T's are now closed.
"As far as disruptions, it?s finals weeks for NYU, Fordham, Brooklyn Law School and other city colleges.
Students got an e-mail blast Tuesday urging them to give themselves extra time to get to their exams because of the planned protests.
Children who take school buses in New York City were sent home with notes Tuesday, according to the Department of Education. The notes warned parents about possible delays in getting their kids home because of Wednesday's protests. "

Let us all see just how this all pans out.

DSTCHAOS 05-07-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646782)
Besides the following from the story; it is also matinée Wednesday in NYC's theater district.
As well as start of rush hour in the area.
"As far as disruptions, it?s finals weeks for NYU, Fordham, Brooklyn Law School and other city colleges.
Students got an e-mail blast Tuesday urging them to give themselves extra time to get to their exams because of the planned protests.
Children who take school buses in New York City were sent home with notes Tuesday, according to the Department of Education. The notes warned parents about possible delays in getting their kids home because of Wednesday's protests. "

So? The point is to SHUT THE CITY DOWN. DUHHHHHHHHH.....

;)

jon1856 05-07-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1646787)
So? The point is to SHUT THE CITY DOWN. DUHHHHHHHHH.....

;)

And the 8 million people there have a say in anything????:confused:
Let's make friends and influence people.;)

nittanyalum 05-07-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646789)
And the 8 million people there have a say in anything????:confused:

Sure, they're welcome to join.

DSTCHAOS 05-07-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646789)
And the 8 million people there have a say in anything????:confused:
Let's make friends and influence people.;)


The people in NYC have been inconvenienced for less. They will be O----K.

Influence people in NYC? I'd rather continue influencing the people that I influence elsewhere. :)

DSTCHAOS 05-07-2008 04:54 PM

jon, you just want this not to work out for some reason.

LOL. :p

Go on somewhere.

jon1856 05-07-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1646796)
jon, you just want this not to work out for some reason.

LOL. :p

Go on somewhere.

Not sure just what your definition of "work out" is.;):D
If it is a peaceful demonstration, yes I do.

If it is that this is somehow going to change what happened in the past and bring people back to life-I know it will not.:(

Senusret I 05-07-2008 05:00 PM

For the love of God it's not CIVIL OBEDIENCE.

DSTCHAOS 05-07-2008 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646801)
Not sure just what your definition of "work out" is.;):D
If it is a peaceful demonstration, yes I do.

I can't tell. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1646801)
If it is that this is somehow going to change what happened in the past and bring people back to life-I know it will not.:(

Anyone with a grain of brain knows that it will not change the past and bring people back to life. :confused:

RU OX Alum 05-08-2008 09:48 AM

my brain feels grainy

jon1856 05-08-2008 04:39 PM

11 Years of Police Gunfire, in Painstaking Detail
 
Interesting read from The New York Times.
One should read all of it IMVHO.
11 Years of Police Gunfire, in Painstaking Detail
New York City police officers fire their weapons far less often than they did a decade ago, a statistic that has dropped along with the crime rate. But when they do fire, even at an armed suspect, there is often no one returning fire at the officers. Officers hit their targets roughly 34 percent of the time. ......
......The police fatally shot 13 people in 2006, compared with 30 people a decade before.
¶In 77 percent of all shootings since 1998 when civilians were the targets, police officers were not fired upon, although in some of those cases, the suspects were acting violently: displaying a gun or pointing it at officers, firing at civilians, stabbing or beating someone or hitting officers with autos, the police said. No one fired at officers in two notable cases — the 1999 shooting of Amadou Diallo and the 2006 shooting of Sean Bell.
¶In such shootings, the total number of shots fired in each situation edged up to 4.7 in 2006. However, the figure is skewed by the 50 shots fired in the Bell case. Excluding that case, the average would be 3.6 shots.
¶The average number of bullets fired by each officer involved in a shooting remained about the same over those 11 years even with a switch to guns that hold more bullets — as did officers’ accuracy, roughly 34 percent. This figure is known in police parlance as the “hit ratio.”
“The data shows that the New York City Police Department is the most restrained in the country,” said Paul J. Browne, the department’s chief spokesman. “What these reports don’t show are the thousands of incidents where police were confronted with armed criminals, and they did not return fire.”.........
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss

DaemonSeid 05-08-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon1856 (Post 1648025)
Interesting read from The New York Times.
One should read all of it IMVHO.
11 Years of Police Gunfire, in Painstaking Detail
New York City police officers fire their weapons far less often than they did a decade ago, a statistic that has dropped along with the crime rate. But when they do fire, even at an armed suspect, there is often no one returning fire at the officers. Officers hit their targets roughly 34 percent of the time. ......
......The police fatally shot 13 people in 2006, compared with 30 people a decade before.
¶In 77 percent of all shootings since 1998 when civilians were the targets, police officers were not fired upon, although in some of those cases, the suspects were acting violently: displaying a gun or pointing it at officers, firing at civilians, stabbing or beating someone or hitting officers with autos, the police said. No one fired at officers in two notable cases — the 1999 shooting of Amadou Diallo and the 2006 shooting of Sean Bell.
¶In such shootings, the total number of shots fired in each situation edged up to 4.7 in 2006. However, the figure is skewed by the 50 shots fired in the Bell case. Excluding that case, the average would be 3.6 shots.
¶The average number of bullets fired by each officer involved in a shooting remained about the same over those 11 years even with a switch to guns that hold more bullets — as did officers’ accuracy, roughly 34 percent. This figure is known in police parlance as the “hit ratio.”
“The data shows that the New York City Police Department is the most restrained in the country,” said Paul J. Browne, the department’s chief spokesman. “What these reports don’t show are the thousands of incidents where police were confronted with armed criminals, and they did not return fire.”.........
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/ny...rssnyt&emc=rss

I see where you are going but you kind of figured that out from a few factors

1. These officers had hardly ever drew their weapons in their careers

2. They fired a total of 50 rounds

4. less than 1/2 hit their targets

5. They almost hit other civilians and thier on colleagues

6. when you fire 31 times, stop, reload and continue firing.

What this article suggests, that sure not only have they fired and shot unarmed civilians , but they were poor shots while doing it....sounds like somebody's police force needs more time on the range and less time on the streets


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