Someone call the whaaambulance....

boooooring.

Having met brothers from alot of northern and western chapters, I can clearly say that by Southern standards they are not up to par.

By Southern standards.

Take that how you will.

Read, dimwhit! The poster was basing everything on one chapter, which he acknowledged. If you are basing your "southern standards" on all of your chapters across the country, then you have done a little (not much) more research. Your Southern Comfort can stand in your eyes, based on your Fraternity.

Not knowing what your standards are, I have no idea what "par" means to you. And, you not knowing what my standards are, makes it hard to take you seriously. And you too "generalize".

After you graduate, find a job and get a life, lets figure out who has higher standards. No, I don't walk around wearing white gloves, drinking sweet tea and admiring my deb dress, but my list of organizations and charities in which I am involved and the boards that I sit are most likely more than "up to par".

Oh silly me, after reading all of your narrow-minded posts, I realize you won't even speak with anyone outside the SEC or Big-12. Sounds like Fratty.

No doubt, Bengirl, no doubt. Oddly, though, when people come back with snappy comments on both sides of the issue, it kind of taints the case.

It's hard to believe that any southern gentleman would waste much of his time degrading other chapters of a group which he is a member, and yet, nobody is really rising above here and establishing their superior good conduct and social manners.

I'm as guilty myself, no doubt.

I'm obviously very guilty...

It's however very frustrating to read the writings of obvious GDI's on this board. People that are suppose to be my "brothers". How do these people manage to get in sororities and fraternities? I don't know. I thought we were suppose to be exclusive.

Benzgirl is repetitive in Southern bashing. I may be repetitive in Northern bashing, but at least I put it through my perspective instead of pretending it to be fact.

Also, Benzgirl, you spelled dimwit wrong.

I mean are you serious? That was the one word that you almost had to get right.

Someone already made the point about how unreasonable it would be to have a 100+ chapter at a private school with 1,000 undergraduates - even in the South! The other thing I'd like to point out is that my organization is the second largest (chapter wise) in the country and our average chapter size is about 80-90. Somehow that doesn't lend much validity to the fact that a "good" chapter size is 150+.

Dear Elephant Walk:

How can anyone take you seriously when your name is "Elepahnt Walk"? You named yourself after a form of hazing which is defined as when a group of guys form a straight line and grab the erect cock of the guy in back of them with one hand and put their thumb in the sphincter of the guy in front of them then they then walk a in a circle. I guess that is part of your Southern standards?

Because my screen name totally means I have connections to it.

Smart one, killer.

Homosexual hazing tends to stay out West, actually.

I have got to be honest: I've found it disturbing since I first saw it.

Whit and wit are both acceptable ways of spelling the word. As in Nitwhit and Half Whit too. I couldn't decide which Whit was the best description of you.
I have nothing against the south. Just certain narrow-minded Fratties who demonstrate their loss for Whit!

:D

I've said this before so here goes:

When I first saw "Elephant Walk" I thought he was a Delta. We have an Elephant Walk that is not hazing and (of course) is not as described above.

I've also seen those photos and they are disturbing. However, this poster may be referencing real elephants but, being Greek, it would appear that it's a Greek reference.

For what it's worth - even in our beloved South, all college campuses are not alike. :eek: Within the same STATE you will find differences between campuses, and chapters of the same GLO. To cite an example with which I am familiar, no one will fail to miss that the campus climate and Greek system at the University of Texas - Austin and Texas A&M University are vastly different. Are there some similarities? Sure - you can find some cultural similarities. Most of the students are Texans, and there will be some aspects of being Texan that will be evident. But they are not the same.
There is a discernible difference in greek systems in the north, south, east and west. I think we all accept that.
But in terms of my sisters from other areas those differences are secondary to what we share. Were that not the case, there would be no sense in having an International organization that uses the same ritual. I've met sisters from all areas, and one of the things I cherish is the ability for what binds us together to overcome those geographical differences.I've met some great women who are totally different than I. I feel sorry for any member of a national/international GLO who wouldn't feel that bond with other members of the GLO.

I feel the same way SWTXBelle. What would be the fun of being in a international organization if you didn't feel any kind of connection to other members?

Haha, you're letting him get to you!

Also, this isn't directed at you specifically ( although you are an Ohio State fan! ), BUT:
I've noticed that in many of these North v South debates, the northerners continue to call out southerners for being "narrow-minded". I think it's narrow-minded to discount tradition and fairly ironic that those who accuse others of being anti-progressive don't want to consider the culture of the southeast or take the time to try and understand it.
Again, for emphasis, it's nothing personal towards Benzgirl, it's just a pattern I've been noticing in these arguments.

A pattern that I have noticed is that northerners often express a distaste for the idiosyncracies and customs of their southern brothers and sisters (often a vehement distaste), but they don't deny them being brothers and sisters. Some (definitely not all, but some) of the southerners are claiming that their northern brethren are not in fact brethren at all, and have in essence disowned the northern chapters for not being exclusive enough, or elite enough, or whatever their specfic standard may be that they find lacking. That I think is probably very troublesome and offensive to the northerners.

Hey, hey, hey - it's mainly southern FRATERNITY men, pbear! I see nothing but love from sorority women - for all their sisters (and NPC cousins)