One of my chpater sisters mother was a colony member of another sorority on Auburn's campus, and her sister was either in the chapter, or JUST graduated. And she got cut from that sorority pretty early in the week. She found out when se went to accept invitations, and her mother only found out when she got a chance to call her and tell her. The mother was livid (I would be too) and called the chapter advisor. The advisor swore that there must have been a mistake made and out the blame on Panhellenic. But she continued with recruitment and found a home in Alpha Xi Delta. Things couldn't have worked out better for her. She went on to be Recording Secretary and Financial VP, and she is now an advisor on another campus.

Auburn's chapter was used to this since her first two daughters went through recruitment when the IP was the International Vice President Collegians. She encouraged all of her daughters to be open and consider all of the sororities, but I know she is thrilled that they are all Alpha Gams.
By the time you hold a position like that, you are even more Panhellenically minded, I think.

Congrats to everyone!

Didn't one of your friend's or relative's daughters go ZTA last year, too? Do the girls know each other?

Word is that 918 recieved bids. Not sure if that is how many received or how many accepted....and they started with 1184 (may be off 1-2 girls up or down). So approx 78% were placed.

My friend's daughter received a bid from KKG at Auburn. I don't know any other info because I have not talked to them yet.

Yeah for your friend's daughter! They had 61 girls yesterday - held a beautiful reception in the afternoon and then the girls went out to dinner with their "sister for the day" and other pairs of new pledges and sisters; then back to the chapter room for a "spend the night" party. Looked like a really cute group of girls. Seemed to be a fair mix of in and out of state girls...that will make for a strong group. Haven't heard yet how many legacies accepted bids.

I have absolutely no knowledge of what things are like at Auburn outside of the discussions that have happened here. And, in no way am I wanting to ruffle any feathers here. So, with that said...

If quota was 58, and AZD has a NM class of 23, then I don't think the release figures are working as well as they should be. If there weren't quota additions, AZD could have (theoretically) pledged 48.

I guess I just don't understand quota additions when one of the groups has a NM class of less than half of all the others.

Again, I'm just going on math and what could theoretically happen. Maybe I just need someone to explain how/why other groups can take as many as 63 (no offense, GPhiB) and one of the groups gets only 23.

Can anyone help explain this to me?

There's always going to be a group that unfortunately, whether it be the "tent talk", current low numbers, etc, whatever reason, can't compete with other chapters. Theoretically, AXiD could have had those quota additions, but would those girls have ACTUALLY chosen to go there?? And, things tend to go in cycles, so this year AXiD is low man, but it could be 3 years from now, AXiD is taking total and quota and GPhiB is struggling for half a pledge class.

Not picking on the particular groups I mentioned...they just happened to be at the school we're talking about.

The quota additions don't hurt other chapters, the PNMs who were "quota+" would not be ones who listed AZD. You could try to force a bid match to AZD or they could have tried to snap those quota+ girls, but that doesn't work as well for either the PNMs (who didn't list AZD) or the chapter (who may have more bids to offer, but will probably not get more girls accepting the bids.

Well, we wouldn't know unless they're offered the choice.

I realize that there are going to be groups that struggle for one reason or another, and it also makes sense that such struggling is somewhat cyclical. But, I guess I feel like the 25 quota-additions should've been extended bids to AXiD (assuming AXiD had them on their bid list) instead of the remaining groups (all of which had already reached quota). If those 25 quota-additions didn't want to accept, they wouldn't have to.

Carnation, I don't mean to hijack your thread... congrats to your rainbow girls.:D

Wow talk about pressure! (the chapter and the PNM)

We had a girl at Beloit whose Grandmother was Nat'l/Int'l Pres of an NPC, she shunned the idea of joining any sorority, but from what I heard had a lot of pressure not to go to Beloit because the sorority wasnt there.

That's totally unfair to the PNM. They could have a bid to their first choice, but instead, in the spirit of Panhellenic fairness, let's see if they'll take their last choice instead.

I'm not well-versed in the new figures, but I think if they had AXiD ANYWHERE on their final bid card, and AXiD had that PNM ANYWHERE on their bid list, then they would have been offered AXiD, instead of a quota addition.

I'm not well-versed in the new figures, either. That's why I've asked. But, your second point makes sense. Perhaps I just assumed that the quota-additions had listed AXiD somewhere on their final bid card (and that AXiD also had them on their bid list). I don't mean to suggest that the bid-matchers just randomly throw PNMs into a group they didn't even pref, for instance.

Still, I don't understand quota-additions. Why have quota if you're just going to increase it?

Seriously, not trying to step on toes here... just figure it all out. The new release system is, well, new to me. And, I don't remember any groups on my campus being allowed to take more than quota. But that could be because that was before the new release figures were in place. I dunno.

I thought quota additions were the "freebies" like juniors and/or seniors. :confused:

AlphaFrog, I agree with you. There is a fine line between Panhellenic fairness and fairness to the PNM.

Oh,yeah--I forgot about that. I better start remembering--recruitment at USC starts next week!