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AOII Angel 05-10-2007 06:16 PM

I love how reasonable debates get turned into soap boxes for people who can't see past their own ideas. Anyway, I find it completely disingenuous that you think image is nothing, 33 girl. You keep harping on these little, inconsequential rules that I mentioned which I already stated will not get you kicked out. It's not about being superior to others. It's about not thinking yourself above rules you agreed to follow. What if you decided that you don't need to go to your chapter's mandatory study hour? I personally think it is stupid to require adult women to study at a set time. My chapter didn't do study hours. What if you didn't want to wear the ugly, pink, polka-dot dress that the chapter voted in for a rush party? Can you just elect not to wear it? Why is image important? Image is everything in a sorority. See how many sisters you can intice when you have a bad reputation. Many closed chapters can answer that one for you. The rules I mentioned may be silly, but I guarantee that my drinking, smoking sisters didn't break them because the chapter meant more to them than exercising their rights to do what ever they wanted when they wanted. The real issue is making sure sisters follow the big rules. No....smoking in public does not make you a bad sister. My point was that people who continually break the rules (because the ones who are on the verge of being kicked out usually are this type) don't make good sisters.

honeychile 05-10-2007 06:42 PM

The entire concept of etiquette, good manners, class - whatever you want to call it - is to conduct yourself in a way to make others more comfortable and to make yourself more likeable.

If you buy something to eat from a street vendor, fine. Find a bench, a wall, or someplace to stand and enjoy it - no one's saying you can't! But, if you decide to stroll while eating your taco, hot dog, coke, cotton candy, or whatever, think of what can happen. The crowd might be flowing just fine, until there's an obstacle. Then everyone stops suddenly - and the person in front of you is now wearing your ice cream, or whatever. Is that fair? Would you want that to happen to you? What if the person in front of you discovers that the pizza he just had sat out for too long and his stomach rebels before he can get to a inconspicuous spot? Do you want to deal with his upchuck?

Artists at street fairs aren't exactly thrilled to find mustard or cotton candy on their wares, either.

Same with smoking - I can't possibly be the only nonsmoker who has a burn mark from a wildly gesticulating smoker, whose lit ash landed on someone's clothing or skin. What if it had landed in someone's hair, especially in the highly lacquered big hair days? Do you want to be responsible for someone's disfigurement?

I could go on and on, but you're intelligent adults - figure it out for yourselves.

Drolefille 05-10-2007 06:46 PM

If I couldn't walk at a street fair with food.. well let's just say my hometown has the largest free street fair in Illinois. You don't buy Dippin Dots and sit down! And why do you think they put the alligator on a stick? Or the deep fried Snickers bar? They even have Calzone's on a stick. All for walking around. And never once have the craft booths complained about it.

Mishaps can occur while sitting or standing. I'm not sure how you can't gesticulate wildy while sitting. If you talk with your hands, you'll do that standing up or sitting down.

I don't think eating while standing makes one less classy or in poor taste if the situation is appropriate.

TSteven 05-10-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1444853)
The entire concept of etiquette, good manners, class - whatever you want to call it - is to conduct yourself in a way to make others more comfortable and to make yourself more likeable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1444856)
I don't think eating while standing makes one less classy or in poor taste if the situation is appropriate.

I beleive y'all are on the same page.

JWithers 05-10-2007 07:15 PM

Sorry to break in here, I did not go through I-week, but I was a legacy and my mother, the ever-proper Southern sorority girl, had a few unbreakables, some of which were:

1. No gum-chewing ever.:rolleyes:

2. Do not smoke in public, but especially walking down a street.

3. Do not reapply makeup at the table.

4. Always bring a hostess gift.

5. Thank-you notes are a must.

6. Always stop one drink before you think you need to.:eek:

and, 7. Vulgar language denotes a vulgar upbringing. :cool:

Some are pretty dated and a little funny....(I chew gum on occasion and have been known to let an f-bomb fly), but most are so instilled in me, they are simply second nature.

I think your public actions send a message about your inner quality and when you represent a group, you better think doubly hard about how every decision affects both you and your org.

Thanks for letting be butt in. :)

Drolefille 05-10-2007 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1444863)
I beleive y'all are on the same page.

If the rules say no eating while standing up at all, then I disagree. Particularly since she was suggesting not standing and eating at a street fair.

JWithers 05-10-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1444875)
If the rules say no eating while standing up at all, then I disagree. Particularly since she was suggesting not standing and eating at a street fair.


I have to say, as the mother of small children, if didn't occasionally eat while standing, I would starve to death.

Drolefille 05-10-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444877)
I have to say, as the mother of small children, if didn't occasionally eat while standing, I would starve to death.

My mom would agree :) There were four of us and swears she didn't sit down for about 15 years :p

TSteven 05-10-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1444875)
If the rules say no eating while standing up at all, then I disagree. Particularly since she was suggesting not standing and eating at a street fair.

Unless I am mistaken, I believe that honeychile was addressing the "eating while walking" comment. Not standing and eating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1444853)
If you buy something to eat from a street vendor, fine. Find a bench, a wall, or someplace to stand and enjoy it - no one's saying you can't!


Drolefille 05-10-2007 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSteven (Post 1444890)
Unless I am mistaken, I believe that honeychile was addressing the "eating while walking" comment. Not standing and eating.

My error, though the same rule applies... it's on a stick for a reason.

My opinion will always be that it is ok to eat while walking, if that's a hot dog at a ball game in the park, X on a stick at a street fair, or a pretzel while walking around the mall. Not a big deal. It's a context thing.

ShamikaT 05-10-2007 07:59 PM

"Hello, ShamikaT. it appears that you have not posted on GreekChat in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums? "

GC be alllll up in mine, again! Okay, here is my two cents.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
Sorry to break in here, I did not go through I-week, but I was a legacy and my mother, the ever-proper Southern sorority girl, had a few unbreakables, some of which were:

1. No gum-chewing ever.:rolleyes:

What the hayle am I supposed to do? Pop my spit? What if yo breath clownin'? That seems more rude than chewing gum. I aiiiin't never heard of any mess like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
2. Do not smoke in public, but especially walking down a street.

I agrees with this one. Smoking bud on a public street is a fast way to get thrown in the birdcage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
3. Do not reapply makeup at the table.

Then where else I supposed to do it? What if someone had cut up the bathroom? I would have no choice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
4. Always bring a hostess gift.

Shiiiiiiiiii! Why? It ain't Christmas time or anything. What do I owe a hostess? Now, if there's a HOST, I may give him a lil somthin' somethin' if he treats me well. :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
5. Thank-you notes are a must.

Only if they deserve it. Feed me well, that means 6 White Castles, a order onion rings, french fries, and some strawberry sody...and maybe I'll shoot you an email. And keep them mangy ass dogs away from me. No, I do not want to pat Fido and let him lick my face, put him away!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
6. Always stop one drink before you think you need to.:eek:

How are you defining drinks here? A glass of wine? A can of beer? Boppin' Berry Blue kool-aide?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWithers (Post 1444870)
and, 7. Vulgar language denotes a vulgar upbringing. :cool:

That just sounds nasty right there! :eek:

JWithers 05-10-2007 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShamikaT (Post 1444900)
"Hello, ShamikaT. it appears that you have not posted on GreekChat in several weeks, why not take a few moments to ask a question, help provide a solution or just engage in a conversation with another member in any one of our forums? "

GC be alllll up in mine, again! Okay, here is my two cents.



What the hayle am I supposed to do? Pop my spit? What if yo breath clownin'? That seems more rude than chewing gum. I aiiiin't never heard of any mess like that.



I agrees with this one. Smoking bud on a public street is a fast way to get thrown in the birdcage.



Then where else I supposed to do it? What if someone had cut up the bathroom? I would have no choice.



Shiiiiiiiiii! Why? It ain't Christmas time or anything. What do I owe a hostess? Now, if there's a HOST, I may give him a lil somthin' somethin' if he treats me well. :o



Only if they deserve it. Feed me well, that means 6 White Castles, a order onion rings, french fries, and some strawberry sody...and maybe I'll shoot you an email. And keep them mangy ass dogs away from me. No, I do not want to pat Fido and let him lick my face, put him away!



How are you defining drinks here? A glass of wine? A can of beer? Boppin' Berry Blue kool-aide?



That just sounds nasty right there! :eek:


ROFLMBO:D

Hopeful_Bubbles 05-10-2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1444856)
You don't buy Dippin Dots and sit down! And why do you think they put the alligator on a stick? Or the deep fried Snickers bar? They even have Calzone's on a stick.

Now I'm hungry for fair food. Thanks ;)

Drolefille 05-10-2007 09:39 PM

You're welcome. :p Anything that can be put on a stick, those guys will do it. And it is wonderful :D

JWithers 05-10-2007 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1444853)
The entire concept of etiquette, good manners, class - whatever you want to call it - is to conduct yourself in a way to make others more comfortable and to make yourself more likeable.

If you buy something to eat from a street vendor, fine. Find a bench, a wall, or someplace to stand and enjoy it - no one's saying you can't! But, if you decide to stroll while eating your taco, hot dog, coke, cotton candy, or whatever, think of what can happen. The crowd might be flowing just fine, until there's an obstacle. Then everyone stops suddenly - and the person in front of you is now wearing your ice cream, or whatever. Is that fair? Would you want that to happen to you? What if the person in front of you discovers that the pizza he just had sat out for too long and his stomach rebels before he can get to a inconspicuous spot? Do you want to deal with his upchuck?

Artists at street fairs aren't exactly thrilled to find mustard or cotton candy on their wares, either.

Same with smoking - I can't possibly be the only nonsmoker who has a burn mark from a wildly gesticulating smoker, whose lit ash landed on someone's clothing or skin. What if it had landed in someone's hair, especially in the highly lacquered big hair days? Do you want to be responsible for someone's disfigurement?

I could go on and on, but you're intelligent adults - figure it out for yourselves.


I am sorry, but I HAVE to ask; are you for real or a caricature of what someone told you a Southern lady ought to be? :confused: My mother was Saint Cecelia's(that's Charleston) and Tri-Delta in the 1950's and I never heard such foghorn-leghorn stuff come out of her mouth. It's like you picked up some primer (Or Rebecca Wells book) and copied the language and are projecting it as your own. :rolleyes:

I was raised by real women of substance and they would say your manner is 'putting on airs'.

I am probably banned now, but after reading your posts, I just couldn't keep it in anymore. It's simply ridiculous. :rolleyes:


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