I agree that the purpose behind this movement is not a "white thing." :)

General comment and not a response to AOII Angel/

However, I consider outcome/application to be more important than intent/purpose. It is no coincidence that Occupy has been a predominantly "white thing." There is minimal racial and ethnic diversity in most cities where there is an Occupy. Also, the Occupiers who have been "the voice" of this movement and who are considered "leaders" are not racial and ethnic minorities. People pretending that this racial makeup is a mere coincidence and race does not matter is one reason why Occupy Harlem is necessary.

I agree. That is what I found interesting about the article I read. It was on HP. After the discussions her on GC, I thought, "Aha...this has been on someone else's mind other than Dr. Phil." ;)

ETA: HP article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/occupy-harlem-organizers-_n_1067790.html

"Occupy Wall Street is not a quote-unquote white thing. It is a white thing that the 1 percent and the bankers are representing white oligarchy and white plutocrats for the most part," Bailey said. "But this is an organic movement from the bottom up. Now we have to take advantage, seize the time and the moment ... and it is time that we become part of this landscape so we can begin to highlight our issues."

I did a thread search to see if someone already mentioned this, but I didn't find anything.....

http://www.daveramsey.com/newsletter...cnl_13#feature

"A lot of people on Twitter are saying I totally agree with the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) demands and goals. The only problem is that I have no idea what their demands and goals are. And neither does anyone else. If all you ever do is stomp around, yell and hold up signs protesting a million different things, sure you'll get some attention, but over time, you'll just look foolish. You end up coming across like a three-year-old having a temper tantrum.

This is what's happening to the OWS movement. They're being discredited because no one has stepped forward and really stated what it is they're after. The whole group is coming across like a bunch of jacked-up, jobless, wannabe hippies. That's not going to change anything in this country. You've got to state your goals clearly if you want to accomplish something."

Yeah, spot on. The article continues with 4 goals worth mentioning.

Wow, things are getting out of hand now..
http://lol.escoflip.com/

Bitch.

I just want to say that Dave Ramsey is awesome.

BWAA-HA-HA-HA!

Oh snap! I got RickRolled!!!! LOL

I always loved Rick Astley. :)

Uh, Yeeeah. I just wish I had known about him 10 years ago before I did stupid with $0s on the end.....

Things are getting interesting for Occupy Detroit. New signs have been posted in the park where they are camping that say the park closes at 10 pm. Apparently their permit was not granted for 60 days, but only 30 days and that is up Monday night. Their park is along the Detroit Thanksgiving Parade route and is a key place for grandstands and I suspect that is the motivation for getting them out next week. Apparently they've been offered the use of a building by a union for an indoor occupation through winter, which is pretty cool. They had an emergency meeting last night which was on livestream and it was pretty interesting to see. Police showed up in riot gear but just surrounded them and left when the meeting ended.

We drove past Occupy Phoenix two nights ago. They are camped out downtown about five or six blocks from me. No one is allowed to sleep due to rules about "urban camping" aka no homeless allowed to sleep downtown. They come out in shifts. There are several tents for food, medical and media. Very quiet and orderly group when we drove by. You wouldn't know it by th police presence, though. I counted five police SUVs parked next to them, and we turned the corner, two police on motorcycles were sitting there with another cruiser a block away. I can't say I've ever seen that many police vehicles away from a police station.

Thanks for sharing this amanda6035.

I really enjoyed the last two goals that Dave mentioned, the "Wall Street is Evil" and "Wealth Redistribution."

I'm not too sure what the Occupy movement is all about (especially here in Milwaukee where it now is happening). What I think it is all about is that the 99% wants some share of what the 1% has. Is that it? I feel ignorant, or confused, or I really don't know what to think. Too much is going into this.

Man fatally shoots himself at Occupy protest in Vermont:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45246660...rmont-protest/

That's interesting. I saw a story a few days back of a woman being found dead in one of the tents at an occupy event. I can't find an updated story as to the cause of the death, if it was natural or if foul play is suspected. Something that is alarming to me is the growing number of reports of how crime (to even include sexual assault) is being unreported to police and covered up for fear of the occupiers permits getting revoked.

There were a couple of violent crimes at at least one Occupy protest last week. From the dawn of humanity, putting humans together for a long enough time has resulted in crime and deviance (when societies have definitions of criminal and deviant acts). I do not know why the Occupy protestors thought that they would be different.

I agree with someone on a news show who said something to the effect of: "these types of protests are a means to a goal...they are not THE goal."

I think it is time for the Occupiers to go home (for those who have homes) and figure out their next course of action. Real longevity comes when you can enact change when you stop sleeping in tents and marching boulevards.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45258539/ns/us_news-life/