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ASTalumna06 12-12-2008 09:53 AM
OK, I need a brief summary. My DVR hates me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1753929)
I agree with this. For all intensive purposes, it really looks like Sugar is breaking down emotionally quite a bit, but I really think she's laying it on thick and playing a good game. And the "Take this cursed thing away" was icing on the cake last night.

I thought Crystal had lost her mind when she started yelling at Matty. First she was yelling about how they had brought him along in the alliance, then she was yelling about how he was never in the alliance, and I couldn't keep up with WTF she was talking about.
And what happened with all of this??

srmom 12-12-2008 10:46 AM
Wow! Last night was awesome!!! Even my husband (who hates reality shows) couldn't stop watching and chuckled at how it all came out.

How about Crystal bitching about karma biting Matty in the butt - HELLOOOO! Karma got her instead!! And she deserved it!

Bob or Sugar for the WIN!!

AGDee 12-12-2008 12:26 PM
I agree, Bob or Sugar for the win. The jury loved that move last night when Sugar gave the Idol to Matty.

This season has been great strategically and and with the blind siding!

ASTalumna06 12-12-2008 12:45 PM
Ahh! Someone tell me what happened, please?! :D

KDAngel 12-12-2008 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1753983)
Ahh! Someone tell me what happened, please?! :D
1. Camp decides Matty's next to go.
2. Kenny's mad at Bob b/c of last week and makes Bob tell him that he'll give him the immunity necklace if he wins.
3. Bob won the reward and brought Crystal and Kenny with him.
4. The 3 talked about sticking together, etc., etc.
5. Crystal comes back and lets Matty have it for no apparent reason.
6. Sugar gets up at this and tells Matty to stick with her and that they're going to get rid of Crystal.
7. Bob wins immunity (4th win in a row, or something like that) and Kenny reminds Bob of his promise.
8. Kenny tells the camp Bob won't give him the necklace unless everyone says they're voting for him (Kenny), and that they should all tell Bob that.
9. Sugar tells Bob what Kenny was saying. Told him not to trust him and to keep the necklace.
10. At tribal council, Bob does keep immunity. Sugar gives Matty her immunity idol.
11. Since votes against Matty didn't count, Crystal was voted off. Pretty sure it would have happened regardless of Sugar giving Matty her idol, but it definitely made her look good.

And that's it. *I think*

ASTalumna06 12-12-2008 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KDAngel (Post 1753987)
1. Camp decides Matty's next to go.
2. Kenny's mad at Bob b/c of last week and makes Bob tell him that he'll give him the immunity necklace if he wins.
3. Bob won the reward and brought Crystal and Kenny with him.
4. The 3 talked about sticking together, etc., etc.
5. Crystal comes back and lets Matty have it for no apparent reason.
6. Sugar gets up at this and tells Matty to stick with her and that they're going to get rid of Crystal.
7. Bob wins immunity (4th win in a row, or something like that) and Kenny reminds Bob of his promise.
8. Kenny tells the camp Bob won't give him the necklace unless everyone says they're voting for him (Kenny), and that they should all tell Bob that.
9. Sugar tells Bob what Kenny was saying. Told him not to trust him and to keep the necklace.
10. At tribal council, Bob does keep immunity. Sugar gives Matty her immunity idol.
11. Since votes against Matty didn't count, Crystal was voted off. Pretty sure it would have happened regardless of Sugar giving Matty her idol, but it definitely made her look good.

And that's it. *I think*
Thank you! And I'm definitely sorry I missed all of that!

I'm still so fascinated by who's left. The fact that Susie is still there makes me think that her keeping on the DL as of late has helped her immensely.

SydneyK 12-12-2008 01:19 PM
Yeah, I can't believe Susie is still there. I also can't believe that Crystal made it all the way to Day 36. (Is that right? I think I remember her saying something in her booted-off clip about being just 3 days away from the final.)

The finale is going to be so interesting - the jury comments alone will be worth the time investment (isn't it like a 3 hour ordeal Sunday night?). Anyway, this has been one of the best seasons of Survivor in a while. It started out pretty predictable, but boy-howdy it sure hasn't ended up that way!

AGDee 12-12-2008 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1753995)
Thank you! And I'm definitely sorry I missed all of that!

I'm still so fascinated by who's left. The fact that Susie is still there makes me think that her keeping on the DL as of late has helped her immensely.
You can watch it on CBS.com. It would be well worth it. The actual nuances of how it all played out was really fun to watch and it was complicated.

Susie still being there is kind of a shock to me too. I keep wondering how???? The bottom line is, she's no threat to anybody, she doesn't fight with people and she does a lot of work around camp. She did win that fire starting challenge, remember?

I think it will be a final 3 that are voted on. I could see the 3 being Sugar, Bob and Matty.

SydneyK 12-12-2008 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1754005)
I could see the 3 being Sugar, Bob and Matty.
I would like to see those three in the final 3, but if any of them have anything to do with deciding who they will be sitting next to, it would be dumb for any of them to pick the others. For instance, if Sugar gets to decide who she's taking with her, it would be in her best interest to take Kenny and Susie (based on who is on the jury and how they got there).

She (Sugar) did seem genuinely interested in having the "good people" progress, though, so maybe she would honor their goodness despite the fact that she would likely lose to them.

If either Matty or Bob wins, maybe taking Sugar wouldn't be a bad idea. But I still think Susie and Kenny would receive fewer votes than either Matty, Bob or Sugar.

a.e.B.O.T. 12-12-2008 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SydneyK (Post 1754007)
I would like to see those three in the final 3, but if any of them have anything to do with deciding who they will be sitting next to, it would be dumb for any of them to pick the others. For instance, if Sugar gets to decide who she's taking with her, it would be in her best interest to take Kenny and Susie (based on who is on the jury and how they got there).

She (Sugar) did seem genuinely interested in having the "good people" progress, though, so maybe she would honor their goodness despite the fact that she would likely lose to them.

If either Matty or Bob wins, maybe taking Sugar wouldn't be a bad idea. But I still think Susie and Kenny would receive fewer votes than either Matty, Bob or Sugar.
With the booting of Crystal... Bob, Matty, Sugar and Kenny no longer have chances of locking a win in the final 3. Keeping crystal and systematically booking off everyone else buy Susie was any one of those four automatic ticket to getting the mil. Now, there will be two of them, so it will be more complex, no so much with Bob in the final three as he has four huge supporters on the jury already that will easily sway in his favor.

Bob seems like a good guy, and is clearly playing the game. However, based on merit, I think Sugar is playing an EXCELLENT game. She has risen as the person that decides who stays and go... all of her blindsides have worked... and she has been able to flip sides a couple times without getting caught.

ufpika 12-12-2008 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KDAngel (Post 1753987)
1. Camp decides Matty's next to go.
2. Kenny's mad at Bob b/c of last week and makes Bob tell him that he'll give him the immunity necklace if he wins.
3. Bob won the reward and brought Crystal and Kenny with him.
4. The 3 talked about sticking together, etc., etc.
5. Crystal comes back and lets Matty have it for no apparent reason.
6. Sugar gets up at this and tells Matty to stick with her and that they're going to get rid of Crystal.
7. Bob wins immunity (4th win in a row, or something like that) and Kenny reminds Bob of his promise.
8. Kenny tells the camp Bob won't give him the necklace unless everyone says they're voting for him (Kenny), and that they should all tell Bob that.
9. Sugar tells Bob what Kenny was saying. Told him not to trust him and to keep the necklace.
10. At tribal council, Bob does keep immunity. Sugar gives Matty her immunity idol.
11. Since votes against Matty didn't count, Crystal was voted off. Pretty sure it would have happened regardless of Sugar giving Matty her idol, but it definitely made her look good.

And that's it. *I think*
The one part you missed is that Kenny was telling everyone to vote for Bob after he gave up the immunity. Basically Kenny was telling the camp to tell Bob they were voting for Kenny (so Bob would give him the immunity), so that Kenny could have the necklace and then everyone would really vote for Bob.

PeppyGPhiB 12-12-2008 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by a.e.B.O.T. (Post 1754015)
Bob seems like a good guy, and is clearly playing the game. However, based on merit, I think Sugar is playing an EXCELLENT game. She has risen as the person that decides who stays and go... all of her blindsides have worked... and she has been able to flip sides a couple times without getting caught.
AND she spent the first half of the game at Exile Island! Usually that harms people - makes them an outsider - but in Sugar's case it has worked. I can't believe they let her get to the end without forcing her to use her immunity idol...if I were one of them, I'd make her use it quickly, so she wouldn't have immunity this long. In essence, they gave her immunity all of these weeks because for some reason they thought it was a lost cause voting for her.

ASTalumna06 12-12-2008 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1754082)
AND she spent the first half of the game at Exile Island! Usually that harms people - makes them an outsider - but in Sugar's case it has worked. I can't believe they let her get to the end without forcing her to use her immunity idol...if I were one of them, I'd make her use it quickly, so she wouldn't have immunity this long. In essence, they gave her immunity all of these weeks because for some reason they thought it was a lost cause voting for her.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking the whole time. Why has no one tried to blindside Sugar? But if you truly think about it, there’s never really been an "opportunity" to do so. First of all, the switching of tribes so many times called for people to stick together, even if they weren’t thrilled about it, so that they’d survive another three days. And it appears that the goal was to always kick off the strongest players. Sugar has never been a particularly strong player in the challenges, so I don’t think that she was ever seen as a threat.

I find that for the most part, the players that have been laying low and keeping quiet are the ones who are surviving (Sugar, Matty, Susie and Bob.. up until the last couple episodes when he's been desperately strategizing so that he wasn't the "outsider from the other tribe")

SWTXBelle 12-14-2008 11:11 PM
So . . .who should win?

summer_gphib 12-15-2008 12:39 AM
Yea! I'm thrilled with the outcome. THRILLED.


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