Mady
 

If you will reread my posting, what I said was Mady is exhibiting bi-polar tendencies. When she is in a good mood, which is rare, she is a very cute, sweet child who likes to talk and laugh and interact with her family, particularly her twin sister, Cara. When she is down, however, she can be destructive (kicking her baby sister repeatedly, throwing things, slamming doors, screaming, crying hysterically at a much higher degree than a seven year old should be doing). The time to deal with this is now before she becomes more out of control and unable to deal with her frustrations.

I wish I had been able to do more for my step-son when he lived with us, but I did not have any legal standing to get him professional help. I always tried to be there for him, even into adulthood. Now he is searching for answers, one of which is why his parents never sought help for him when he was younger.

I am not a mean-spirited basher of this little girl or her parents. I am genuinely concerned for this child. To say it's all an act in front of the cameras is to indicate that there is rampant abuse going on. I do not believe that is the case. I believe what Mady does is real. I hope someone will step up and do what is right for her.

Paula M.
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One Hope of Many People

Paula, I get what you are saying. BUT, we all have to remember that this is a TV show. Situations will be edited to fit people into whatever title they have, the sweet kind, the shy kid, etc. We don't know if Mady gets agitated by the cameras, if she had an off day, or what. Mady acts like, to me, a normal 7 year old child. I should know, I have a now ten year old, and my daughter acted a lot like Mady does at times.


<--also has a BS in Psych, one year in Infant Special Education, and 4 years experience working with Kids with special needs. 10 years experience as a mom to a fantastic kid. :D

Jon & Kate Plus 8 returns for a new season May 25th!

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Sorry, SWTXBelle. ;)

Oh, I'll just look forward to "Divorce Court: Jon - Kate" in 2010. ;)

eta - Maybe "Intervention: Mady G." in 2018.

Crap, I was hoping they were all done. But, I figured there's no way they'd give up that money maker.

SHE certainly won't give it up.

No kidding! Besides, no divorce court anytime soon. Jon would need to grow a pair first...
Or take them out of Kate's purse

Next season on Jon minus 9... :p

Jill: ---> to the corner for that remark, please and thank you!! lol!!!:D

Ok, I will go to the corner...
I have said that about my brother in law too

*sliding back to the corner to do my time*

So is the show coming back? Or are all these stupid multi-kid shows that are on now replacements?

Season 5 starts late next month. An Earth Day Jon and Kate Special does air Sunday, though.

This Table for 12 replacement just doesn't cut it for me. Maybe it's because the kids aren't as cute.

Complete snark, I know - But I really hope that Kate has her hair color fixed before the next season starts. Every time I see the more recent episodes I want to yell at her that she looks like a skunk.

(Maybe I need to go in the corner too.....:rolleyes:)

TAN? I would call that Day glow orange! UGH, not a good look Kate!

Did anyone see the Jon & Kate + 8 Go Green special on Sunday? For someone who was getting hooked up with solar panels, Kate was a major B to the entire crew.

Jon was caught with another woman (well kind of). ICK. I hope he's not cheating on Kate and being a scumbag. Granted Kate's way overbearing, but I really like their family.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-a...-woman-2009284

Ah, you beat me to it!

Can you imagine the A$$ chewing Jon got over that one????

I definitely do not condone any type of infidelity, and I really want to believe that Jon is making good choices, but I can certainly see how he is most likely under a tremendous amount of stress. I hope that he can find a way to reduce that stress or develop good ways of dealing with it.

PsychTau

Agreed...I have stopped watching...

Has it been confirmed who this lady is? Cause y'all know 1/2 of Jon's family is white, it could have just been a relative or a friend.

Goodness, the man can't even get in the car with someone without people think he's cheating.

Do you often go out in bars without your wedding ring with "family"? Jon has released a statement, and said she is just a friend. :rolleyes:

Yes......but that's also cause i'm not married! lol.

Okay, smartypants - WOULD you go to a bar without your wedding ring with a family member and leave in the wee small hours??

There is a time and a place for Jon's behavior, and it is before he got married and had 8 kids.

Sorry Jon, this is the grownup world. You don't get to carry on like an unmarried man.

Even if this is fairly innocent (i.e. it is really a friend) appearances matter. What he appears to be doing is, getting drunk, running around with single women and cheating on his wife. What he may actually be doing could be different, but it doesn't matter now.

Someone once gave me some good advice and a way in which to measure either your behavior or someone else's : One goof up can be excused as a mistake. More than one looks like a pattern.

Oh baby YOU got what I NEED
but you say he's just a friend, but you say he's just a friend

That got stuck in my head.

Jon needs to man up and divorce her because he's obviously miserable being married.

Joint custody? I would HATE to think of those children being with Kate alone for the majority of the time. But the kids may well be a reason they don't divorce - that, and the money train would probably come to a slammin' stop.

Poor kids either way. :(

Just to play devil's advocate- my husband plays basketball every Monday night with a bunch of guys at church. He takes his ring off before he goes. After basketball, they usually go to a local dive bar for a few beers.

He has forgotten to put his ring back on the nex morning. So maybe, Jon took his ring off for some reason and just forgot to put it back on?

Exactly; I tend to take mine off when I'm working out or cooking. Plus, some guys just don't wear their rings for whatever reason, or don't wear them all the time.

Okay - let's say he just "forgot" to put on his ring. He's still out at a bar in the wee small hours (and we GRITS remember our mammas telling us nothing good happens after midnight!) with a woman other than his wife KNOWING that he could be photographed a la his beer pong adventure. So is he stupid? Forgetful? Really wanting to be put in a position to have to stop the show? Inquiring minds want to know . . .

Going to bar with guys after b-ball and forgetting ring - no problem.

Going to bar with woman (not your wife) and forgetting - problem.

Absolutely.

Also, there are a ton of men--my father included--who don't have wedding bands. Actually, neither of my parents have wedding rings. According to the GC powers that be, they're terrible philanderers with no family values whatsoever! :eek::eek::eek:

My brother doesn't wear a wedding ring - he used my grandfather's for the ceremony.

There's a difference between running into someone in a bar and going there with them! Geez, according to some people on here, my friend John (who is the nicest, kindest, most gentlemanly gentleman and dedicated family man I know) must have @#$%ed my brains out because he gave me a ride to my car one evening. If Us magazine had taken a pic of us, it would have looked exactly like that picture of Jon and the random chick.

Jon has already addressed going out with his female friend (at least sort of) - http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/20...her_woman.html



And I too have male friends - but I tend to have coffee with them, not drinks while I am with them alone. Perhaps had he not had the beer pong incident people would not be questioning him, but imho going out without your wife to bars is a problem when you are hanging out with women, not your male buddies. At the very least, as he should know by now, it doesn't look good. The fact that this incidents seem to happen when either he or Kate is away from home is also suspcious. And it wouldn't be a problem at all if he weren't heading a wholesome family show. I've already written that I'm done with them, but all this just confirms why.

I feel for him - he doesn't want to be doing the show, he's married to Kate, he is under enormous pressure with 8 kids and media attention. It is not an easy situation. That's one reason I think he could be, whether he realizes it or not, be making a bid to have the show cancelled by his inappropriate behavior.

Oh, and my husband doesn't wear a wedding ring. He hates jewelery.

I will admit I do not like the show, and I dislike Kate.

However, they live in a small town in PA. Everyone knows who they are. So even if Jon goes out without his wedding ring on, everyone knows hes married and who he is married to. So unless he comes out an proclaims that they are separated, I really don't see what the big deal of not wearing his wedding band out. Maybe he is the kind of guy who doesn't like to wear one - has anyone ever noticed on the show if he always wears it?

Also, him going out with woman late at night and calling her "babe" is kind of suspect. But noone knows what their relationship is. So while its an easy jump from: no wedding ring, drinking with strange woman and calling her "babe" = cheating. I think the media might just be hyping this up. I guess its been a slow gossip week since Lohan split from Sam Ronson.

Exactly! I mean, I understand that Kate and Jon have problems, but what marriage/relationship doesn't. Ok, yeah Kate is a little overbearing, but honestly I don't see it as a big deal. Maybe because my mother is exactly like Kate, seriously---I bet a lot of y'all wouldn't like her (and you'd say the same things you say about Kate) if she had her own show. But my mom isn't like that 24/7, and I seriously doubt Kate is as well.

I think it's wrong to say that its OBVIOUS that Jon is miserable in his marriage, because honestly we don't really know what Jon was like before Kate. All we know was that he was going down "a wrong path" before he married Kate. Jon isn't the perfect husband at all, he's got his faults, but it's not like he's turned out like that because of Kate.

Well, it might not be okay to simply say he is miserable in his marriage based on this one incident - but when you put your life on a reality show, and spend a great deal of the time on it looking miserable (I'm thinking especially of the last interview of the season which I caught because my mother insisted on watching . .. ) you've got to expect people to draw their own conclusions. Just like any other reality show, you will be judged based on the show - look at how people love/hate teams on TAR, or Hell's Kitchen, or Survivior. Do they know those people? No - but you do get to observe and then form an opinion.

Some JK+8 kool-aid drinkers would defend Jon were he found naked in a room with a prostitute - when I first told my mother about this, she immediately said "US Weekly makes things up." It simply could NOT be true, and now that Jon has actually apologized and said what he did was wrong, she still isn't convinced. So I imagine the show will continue, and this will be a little bitty bump in the road.

So maybe I'm TOTALLY wrong. Maybe Kate and Jon are happy as clams at high tide, and Jon was simply discussing great works of literature at 2 a.m. while Kate was out of town with his purely platonic female friend whose actual name is Babe, thus making us all look foolish for thinking anything untoward. Maybe - but I doubt it. I also have to ask - if what he did wasn't wrong, why would he apologize? (Cynical answer is obvious, I know - to preserve his image for the show. )

Oh I agree that he looks miserable, but I don't agree that it's because of Kate. Jon, from the beginning, has looked miserable. He's a really pessimistic person....always criticizing someone. I don't know if it's because with age he's getting more cynical or if he was always like that. But to blame Kate is a little harsh. I'm not saying that she's made it easy on him, but its not completely her fault.