No, "social isolation" is not only about a lack of contact and interaction with others. Feelings of loneliness, abandonment, depression, and isolation are common on college campuses similar as they can increase with urbanization and migration in the general population. College campuses are an environment in which strangers are taken from different cities, states, and often countries and put in a bubble even smaller and more isolated than an "urban bubble". Add to that the pressure some students feel to transition into adulthood and figure out their own preferences, plans, and goals without disappointing or betraying their parents. College campus counselors (often assisted by faculty and staff) spend a great deal of time assisting students (not all of them introverts) who feel alone in a crowded room, who are away from family and childhood friends, and who feel they have no one to talk to at college. People dropout of college for reasons including feeling lonely and depressed, poor grades, family obligations, and physical, mental, and emotional issues. This includes people who want to speak out about their victimization. Many victims are embarrassed over the circumstances and embarrassed because their family trusted them to be away from home and they feel they "messed it up". These are dynamics that are prevalent on college campuses as a microcosm of the general population.

Again, you are trying to fight a battle that isn't being fought. There are many social issues that are causing alarm on some college campuses but these issues are more prevalent in the general population (for reasons including size of population and independence versus the smaller population and dependency of the college bubble). This isn't a competition. There can be disturbing trends and problems on college campuses as well as in the general population.

And this causes college men to rape??

The activists, the media and the politicians are focused on college campus rapes, not general population rapes. Do you see any attempts to pass legislation that affects the general public broadly on rape laws and makes it easier to convict rapists? (Broaden definition of rape, lower standard of proof, affirmative consent)

"Why would a woman lie about being raped"

Sometimes, it's to raise awareness of the issue of rape.

Note to activists - you do not help solve the problem by doing this, you make it worse.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/14/he...va-rape-story/

We are not currently talking about what "causes men to rape".

You are too busy fighting an imaginary battle that you don't know which way is up.

Yes.

Did you think this all started at the college-level?

Links?

What is "this"?

You're a wash, honorgal. A waste of time. Rather than schooling you for you to only dismiss the information, like you just attempted in response to my explanation of social isolation, take the time to school yourself. Learn how some campus-based initiatives learned and sought support from off-campus initiatives. Prove that you are willing and able to form sound arguments without picking and choosing only that which instantly supports your argument.

Too funny. My argument does not rely on using bogus statistics like 1 in 5, or outrageous stories like the one in Rolling Stone.

Neither does mine. The issue of rape is not dependent upon a couple incidents or whether people believe particular numbers.

But it is dependent upon an awareness of the individuals and organizations working to bring awareness to, and decrease incidents of, sexual assault and rape in our cities, states, college campuses, and/or around the world. I recommend anyone who engages in these discussions inform themselves of what is being done at the local, state, national, and international levels BEFORE claiming nothing is being done.

Sound statistical analysis at its most basic will control for different population sizes.

I beg to differ, it is a competition - for public awareness, media attention, and public and private resources. There is literally no end to problems that our society wants to address, and so we prioritize them, based on the severity of the problem, the number of people effected, the availability of effective solutions, the limited resources we have to bring to bear, etc.

"for campus activists and bureaucrats it's a source of power: If there's a "campus rape crisis," that means that we need new rules, bigger budgets, and expanded power and self-importance for all involved, with the added advantage of letting you call your political opponents (or anyone who threatens funding) "pro rape." If we focus on the truth, however — rapidly declining rape rates already, without any particular "crisis" programs in place — then voters, taxpayers, and university trustees will probably decide to invest resources elsewhere. So for politicians and activists, a phony crisis beats no crisis."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...lumn/20397277/

On the issue of campus sexual assault, there is a lot being done.

The concept/meaning/definition of rape (compared to the legal/judicial one historically used) is being altered, the burden of proof is being shifted to the accused (unprecedented) while at the same time the standard of proof has been significantly lowered (from the highest standard, to the lowest) while also obliterating technical due process protections for the accused (in some campus proceedings, the accused isnt even told what the charges are). As a means of getting more men found guilty of rape, these are very effective tools. As a means to punish rapists and prevent more rapes, it's of dubious value.

Hence, the accusers and now the accused are suing colleges and the federal government under Title IX in record numbers.

At least the trial lawyers are happy.

Getting completely out of the business...
 

Eventually, private schools (like for example Yale), at least will start evaluating what it will take for them to get *completely* out of the business of on campus discipline. Have a rape charge? Go to the New Haven Police. Don't want the person attending classes with you, get a distance based restraining order from a Judge.

Honorgal really typed this.

Anyway, naraht, I agree. There are private schools that already direct certain incidents to the local police.

But even that doesn't take the university out of it. How does the university decide whose class schedule changes? Or who has to move dorms? Etc.

According to this AP story, Rolling Stone didn't interview Jackie's friends who were with her that night. They are saying there's even more mis-information.
http://news.yahoo.com/friends-pushed...230527979.html

What is not clear is the extent to which the author embellished what she was told or even if this was a composite of many different stories she heard. In one article or another Jackie asked to be able to vet the story before publication. This request was denied by Rolling Stone.

Report: UVA officials knew of rape report before Rolling Stone-

Much of the scrutiny on the Rolling Stone story about the University of Virginia has focused on the account of a young woman known as “Jackie,” what she told whom when about an alleged gang rape, and how the magazine did or didn’t verify the facts around it. But the apparent institutional indifference to following up on such an allegation, a core part of the same article, has not been disputed, and has now been corroborated by an account in a local newspaper.
The Daily Progress in Charlottesville reports, citing an unnamed “participant” in the meetings in question, that “University of Virginia officials knew in mid-September about allegations of a sexual attack at a school fraternity yet by their own account did not request a police investigation until after a Rolling Stone story launched a firestorm more than two months later.” http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/report-uv...tone?CID=sm_FB




UVa officials were aware of sexual assault allegations two months before Rolling Stone controversy http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/lo...f18fad49b.html

I Was Gang Raped at a U-VA Frat 30 Years Ago, and No One Did Anything

In the same house where Rolling Stone's Jackie says she was. No one did anything about it until one of my rapists contacted me to apologize http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...DB&via=FB_Page

RE: UVA
A writer has snarky fun with a recent NPC pronouncement:

http://jezebel.com/very-brave-sorori...eir-1672204114


The actual NPC statement is included in

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...e6c_story.html

Rolling Stone Fact-Checker Didn't Ask About Alleged Rape Victim In Emails With UVA Officials http://huff.to/1ACMtz0 via @HuffPostMedia

NEW YORK –- A Rolling Stone fact-checker didn't ask University of Virginia officials via email about an alleged 2012 gang rape described in an explosive and now unraveling article published last month.
Under a Freedom of Information Act request, The Huffington Post obtained 104 pages of email correspondence between UVA officials and Rolling Stone contributing editor Sabrina Rubin Erdely, who wrote the story, and assistant editor Elisabeth Garber-Paul, who fact-checked it.

Rolling Stone requests independent review of its University of Virginia rape story

The Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism will conduct a review into the magazine's editorial process http://www.salon.com/2014/12/22/roll...rce=newsletter

The new or revised UVA requirements for fraternities and sororities are covered in an article on an NBC affiliate's site:

http://www.nbc29.com/story/27775401/...tion-agreement

The article ^^ includes links to specific agreements between the university and the various councils (the UVA councils for NIC, NPC, NPHC, etc.)

Another news source has a story, too:

http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlin...287697381.html

Spring Rush at the University of Virginia-Before it was discredited, a coed’s sensational story alleging gang rape at the University of Virginia prompted the university’s president, Teresa Sullivan, to suspend fraternity and sorority activities on campus so that underlying problems of frat-house excesses could be addressed. The result, announced Tuesday, is an encouraging and realistic agreement by student and university leaders to crack down on the sort of binge drinking and partying abuses that have given frat-house behavior a notorious reputation on campuses across the nation. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/08/op...on&nlid=976554

UVA Reveals Strict New Rules On Fraternity Parties
The University of Virginia unveiled strict new rules for fraternity parties Tuesday as it lifted the suspension on Greek social life imposed after a controversial Rolling Stone article in November.
The new rules, including a requirement that a sober fraternity member monitor bedrooms during parties, attempt to reform social life at the Charlottesville campus following a Rolling Stone article that described an alleged gang rape in a bedroom at Phi Kappa Psi. The article has since come under fire for inconsistencies.
The new party policy is outlined in an addendum to the university's Fraternal Organization Agreement, which must be signed annually by each Greek life organization. The agreement spells out rules all 61 fraternities and sororities must obey in order to remain officially recognized by UVA. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6425748.html


U.Va. Adopts New Fraternal Organization Agreement Aimed to Enhance Safety http://www.news.virginia.edu/content...enhance-safety

I am very pleased that the Greek community has risen to the occasion and has become a partner with the university in both recognizing and taking realistic steps to deal with this very serious problem on campus. This is what I have been hoping for all along.

They can be sure that they will no be under very observant eyes to ensure that they are fully complying with this agreement.

UVA has reinstated Phi Kappa Psi; see:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...r-inquiry.html

The article ^^ states, among other things,
“A police investigation found "no basis" for the allegations of sexual assault.”

See also the following, which indicates that the Char;ottesville police are still investigating and will put out a statement later.

http://www.universityherald.com/arti...us-article.htm

Have they reinstated all fraternities and sororities?

News is they have reinstated PKPsi. Nothing on the reswt as of yet! They all should be asap.

if there is a problem, don't act like Animal House and Revenge of the Nerds on campus for the Un!

An article reports that Alpha Tau Omega and Kappa Alpha Order are declining to sign the new (and required, I believe) agreement with the university.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/27841233/...-new-uva-rules

The story ^^ (from an NBC affiliate) includes copies of the statements of KA and ATO.

I wouldn't sign it either. I wish more fraternities would stand up to what the school is doing here. Why sign a new deal after the school showed that these agreements are clearly a one-way street?

The statements made by each group are the same. Did they write the statement together, or is this a mistake?

It is not clear to me what these two fraternities hope to accomplish. ALL GLOs are on campuses at the pleasure of the hosting college or university. So there is an obligation to accept and abide by the standards and policies of their host as well as their own standards. And the wider community consists of the laws of the land. Any thoughts about what they hope to accomplish?

No, not all GLOs are on campuses at the pleasure of the hosting institution. We belong to IFC at their pleasure, but enjoy our right of free association whether they choose to recognize us or not. ATO and KA Order are clearly sending a signal that they would rather not be subject to the whims of whatever overreaction the University has to the next incident.

While they are certainly depriving themselves of the benefits of participating in formal recruitment, they have clearly decided that they prefer that to having to the school's proposed status quo.

I agree in principle with what they've done here and wish more groups would go this route.

While we have to obey the law, it is our option to have a formal relationship with the university where are members are matriculates. Should the host institution treat us unfairly, it is our option to withdraw from that formal relationship and do whatever we want to do within the law. Universities do not write the law. We only formally associate because our organizations find it mutually beneficial. If they behave as UVA has here, perhaps the relationship is no longer working out.

So you are saying that these two groups prefer to operate independently and "off campus" so to speak without the benefits or the responsibilities that come with being affiliated with UVA?

Maybe the benefits aren't very beneficial.

I would also question where the $$$ is coming from for the improved camera systems etc on campus.

The Washington Post headline reads that 31 fraternities have signed agreements with the University "including two holdouts".

All fraternities at UVA are now onboard with the new policies developed by the collaborative efforts of the many affected entities at UVA.

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article...lpha-tau-omega

Another positive step IMO:

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article...ealth-attorney

"Sorority sisters at the University of Virginia were ordered by their national chapters to avoid fraternity events this weekend — a mandate that many of the women said was irrational, sexist and contrary to the school’s culture."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/g...rothers-party/

This weekend is Bid Night for the fraternities.

From UVA's Daily Cavalier:

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article...mens-bid-night

I find this very disturbing on so many levels!:o

Being one of the -ahem- older alumna here I understand the position of the NPC. There are unhealthy behavior patterns on this campus among the young men AND the young women that need to be re-shaped. And that will not happen overnight.

So acting like they can't take care of themselves is helpful how?

It's infantilizing women and not only that, making partying at a fraternity a bigger deal than it should be. The more you say "keep away from this" the more young women will think "this is EVERYTHING. "

Stupid.