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ForeverRoses 06-08-2010 08:32 AM

I guess Jesse did have scenes in Theatricality, but when they went back and re-edited it to go before Funk, they had to remove all of the Jesse scenes (since it really wouldn't have made sense). I hope on the DVDs, they put the order back correctly.

It makes me wonder if there was a scene in Theatricality of the glee club treating him badly or something.

ree-Xi 06-08-2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1940498)
I guess Jesse did have scenes in Theatricality, but when they went back and re-edited it to go before Funk, they had to remove all of the Jesse scenes (since it really wouldn't have made sense). I hope on the DVDs, they put the order back correctly.

It makes me wonder if there was a scene in Theatricality of the glee club treating him badly or something.


I watched the teaser trailer and wished I didn't. It didn't show much, but I didn't want to know certain things!

ASUADPi 06-08-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses (Post 1940498)
I guess Jesse did have scenes in Theatricality, but when they went back and re-edited it to go before Funk, they had to remove all of the Jesse scenes (since it really wouldn't have made sense). I hope on the DVDs, they put the order back correctly.

It makes me wonder if there was a scene in Theatricality of the glee club treating him badly or something.

Now that doesn't make sense. Since Theatricality was supposed to air after Funk, I can understand them taking the Jesse scenes out, but since it aired before Funk, it would have made more sense to keep the Jesse scenes in, because he was in the episode before, which was Dream On and he had made up with Rachel and was calling her his "girlfriend" again. Instead he was in Dream On, not in Theatricality and then in Funk and he left Glee somewhere in between and went back to Vocal Adrenaline.

ree-Xi 06-09-2010 12:50 PM

What a roller coaster ride!!!!

Journey medley rocked!

Loved the V.A. (Queen) song interspersed with Quinn Delivering.

Emma & Mr Shu = <3

Glee club serenading Mr. Shu = tears

Sue having a heart - yay!

Puck and Mr Shu singing one of my favorite renditions of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" - bawling.

Miss Corcoran adopting the baby - interesting twist.

PS the gold performance dresses were designed by Betsey Johnson!

thetygerlily 06-09-2010 01:00 PM

I have to say it... I do not like 80s music. Including Journey. Everyone at work just LOVES Journey and other "classics"... but I am not one of them. With that said, they did a good job with it.

I agree with ree-Xi: Puck & Shu's song was great.

Did she officially adopt the baby? Maybe I missed that. I figured that's what they were hinting at, but don't remember if it overtly happened. Of course, my dogs were being special around then so who knows!

DrPhil 06-09-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thetygerlily (Post 1940964)
I have to say it... I do not like 80s music. Including Journey. Everyone at work just LOVES Journey and other "classics"... but I am not one of them. With that said, they did a good job with it.

:mad: Oh no you didn't.

They did OKAY--I was just happy to hear it. :)

thetygerlily 06-09-2010 01:42 PM

Yes, DrPhil- you understand perfectly. :mad: is exactly the face I use when I'm blasted with 80s music!

:D

LeslieAGD 06-09-2010 02:07 PM

For a season finale, I thought this episode was really lacking! The only great part was Sue (with the judges and at the end with Will).

I don't really know why they had Rachel's bio-mom adopt the baby. It seems kind of mean that she gets to have this new beginning after she kicked up dirt in Rachel's life and then basically said, "I made you find me, now go away." :cool:

ColdInCanada11 06-09-2010 02:13 PM

thetygerlily- I'm with you on the 80s music for the most part. Jessie's girl was solid, but one person only needs so much Journey.
Still, New Directions was still amazing to watch! I've seen We Will Rock You and everything (good show), but enough 70s/80s rock!!! I thought that Vocal Adrenaline should have contrasted more with ND.
As a finale, kind of lacking. Ditto for Sectionals.

Sue's not a robot!

BabyPiNK_FL 06-09-2010 02:41 PM

Yes, the song choices were less than spectacular for both groups. ND performs so cliche. Standing, smile, move, strong stance. We have heart! We have spirit! Um...sure. VA is more interesting to watch at least. But singing one song was risky and got boring. Everyone's done BR. The music is getting repetetive and I think that's why everyone loves the "theme" episodes b/c their different even though they NEVER include only the songs from that artist.

ree-Xi 06-09-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11 (Post 1940993)
thetygerlily- I'm with you on the 80s music for the most part. Jessie's girl was solid, but one person only needs so much Journey.
Still, New Directions was still amazing to watch! I've seen We Will Rock You and everything (good show), but enough 70s/80s rock!!! I thought that Vocal Adrenaline should have contrasted more with ND.
As a finale, kind of lacking. Ditto for Sectionals.

Sue's not a robot!

Disclaimer* - I don't know the specific laws, but have an idea why the "students" are performing older music.

I know that some more modern performers' songs have allowed GLEE! to use their music (and I am amazed at their musical arrangements with Rap and R&B, because I haven't seen that done before), but when it comes to real-life high schools, they are usually working off songbooks/collections of songs with rights that are more accessible. After a certain time, songs fall under a "fair use" rule that allows the music, lyrics, etc. to be used. In this case, the performances are not-for-profit, but for exhibition.

The fact that the cast is re-recording these songs is a entirely other issue, but there are laws allowing a cover song to be produced/sold/performed, even if they are relatively new.

The Journey songs that New Directions performed were from the early 80s. Vocal Adrenaline did a Queen song from the mid-70s. This makes sense to me. For example, when I was in HS (mid-late 80s), our choir did a 7-8-minute medley of the Beach Boys. Granted, the BB had one or two "later" hits, but the stuff we performed in choir was mostly from the 60s and 70s (outside of widely-used/classical pieces like "El Shaddai", "Canon in D", etc). I remember that we had done one "current" piece (one-time performance) and I remember going through a lot to be able to do it. We performed "When the Children Cry," backing up one of the guys in our class who had a rock band. Back then, it was pretty edgy for a Catholic high school.

I have to say that although our choir didn't enter competitions, GLEE brings back many memories for the 4 years I performed in high school Choir. We were lucky enough to take it as an elective, so I got to sing 3-4 days a week. Amazing way to keep your voice healthy if you are also doing musical theater!!


*If anyone here understands music copyright law, feel free to provide accurate and specific info.

ColdInCanada11 06-09-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1941013)
Disclaimer* - I don't know the specific laws, but have an idea why the "students" are performing older music.

I know that some more modern performers' songs have allowed GLEE! to use their music (and I am amazed at their musical arrangements with Rap and R&B, because I haven't seen that done before), but when it comes to real-life high schools, they are usually working off songbooks/collections of songs with rights that are more accessible. After a certain time, songs fall under a "fair use" rule that allows the music, lyrics, etc. to be used. In this case, the performances are not-for-profit, but for exhibition.

The fact that the cast is re-recording these songs is a entirely other issue, but there are laws allowing a cover song to be produced/sold/performed, even if they are relatively new.

The Journey songs that New Directions performed were from the early 80s. Vocal Adrenaline did a Queen song from the mid-70s. This makes sense to me. For example, when I was in HS (mid-late 80s), our choir did a 7-8-minute medley of the Beach Boys. Granted, the BB had one or two "later" hits, but the stuff we performed in choir was mostly from the 60s and 70s (outside of widely-used/classical pieces like "El Shaddai", "Canon in D", etc). I remember that we had done one "current" piece (one-time performance) and I remember going through a lot to be able to do it. We performed "When the Children Cry," backing up one of the guys in our class who had a rock band. Back then, it was pretty edgy for a Catholic high school.

I have to say that although our choir didn't enter competitions, GLEE brings back many memories for the 4 years I performed in high school Choir. We were lucky enough to take it as an elective, so I got to sing 3-4 days a week. Amazing way to keep your voice healthy if you are also doing musical theater!!


*If anyone here understands music copyright law, feel free to provide accurate and specific info.

If it were a real school, I'd totally be on board with it, but this is a network, so I guess I just expected more? Haha, I'm ok with the show being a little less realistic if it means a better performance.

Plus, I think with Don't Stop, it's played EVERYWHERE. Wedding receptions, wedding socials, graduations, parties, sporting events, etc. It's quickly losing any pump up factor for me.

ree-Xi 06-10-2010 09:36 AM

Funny that someone tweeted this article this morning
 
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2010/06/c...e-of-glee.html
The fictional high school chorus at the center of Fox’s Glee has a huge problem — nearly a million dollars in potential legal liability. For a show that regularly tackles thorny issues like teen pregnancy and alcohol abuse, it’s surprising that a million dollars worth of lawbreaking would go unmentioned. But it does, and week after week, those zany Glee kids rack up the potential to pay higher and higher fines...

(more)

...Y
ou might be tempted to assume that this tension isn’t a big deal because copyright holders won’t go after creative kids or amateurs. But they do: In the 1990s, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) asked members of the American Camping Association, including Girl Scout troops,to pay royalties for singing copyrighted songs at camp. In 2004, the Beatles’ copyright holders tried to prevent the release of The Grey Album – a mash-up of Jay-Z’s Black Album and the Beatles’ White Album — and only gave up after massive civil disobedience resulted in the album’s widespread distribution. Copyright holders even routinely demand that YouTube remove videos of kids dancing to popular music. While few copyright cases go to trial, copyright holders like the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) don’t hesitate to seek stratospheric damage awards when they do, as in the Jammie Thomas-Rasset filesharing case.

(sorry about the links...I didn't know how to batch un-link them)

ree-Xi 06-10-2010 09:41 AM

Sorry for the double post, but John Stamos is joining the cast of GLEE:

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/full-house-...310/blog_entry

Can you say "Little Shop of Horrors?

Drolefille 06-10-2010 04:26 PM

Ok so I just watched the last episode and is it just me or are the names of the glee clubs all dirty?

Oral Itensity?
New Directions sounded a lot like "Nude Erections" when the announcer said it.

Am I late for the game on this or the only weirdo who thought of it?

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I have to say it... I do not like 80s music. Including Journey. Everyone at work just LOVES Journey and other "classics"... but I am not one of them. With that said, they did a good job with it.
I think it made sense for them to close it where they began. Using Journey here bookends the season nicely and Mr. Schu even made the point pretty blatant in the episode itself.

ASUADPi 06-10-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1941406)
Sorry for the double post, but John Stamos is joining the cast of GLEE:

http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/full-house-...310/blog_entry

Can you say "Little Shop of Horrors?

I'm actually quite excited about him joining because I loved the episodes on Full House when he would sing. Plus, now I wanna see a "song-down" (instead of show down) between John and Matthew. :D

ree-Xi 06-10-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1941644)
Ok so I just watched the last episode and is it just me or are the names of the glee clubs all dirty?

Oral Itensity?
New Directions sounded a lot like "Nude Erections" when the announcer said it.

Am I late for the game on this or the only weirdo who thought of it?

I think it made sense for them to close it where they began. Using Journey here bookends the season nicely and Mr. Schu even made the point pretty blatant in the episode itself.

It's actually Aural Intensity. But yeah, I laughed too.

Drolefille 06-10-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1941688)
It's actually Aural Intensity. But yeah, I laughed too.

That makes sense too :p

Still, that announcer needs to enunciate more :p

ADqtPiMel 06-10-2010 07:06 PM

Who knew adoption was so easy? Apparently no one wants beautiful white babies from rich families anymore -- they just have to hand them off to whoever will take them. It's sad, really.

BabyPiNK_FL 06-10-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel (Post 1941713)
Who knew adoption was so easy? Apparently no one wants beautiful white babies from rich families anymore -- they just have to hand them off to whoever will take them. It's sad, really.

*DEAD*:D

Yeah, Quinn is just eager to hand her off to whomever. Also, I'm so angry at Idina's character. She's so "baby-centric" she can't even love her own child. That is her flesh and blood! Who cares if she's 16! You went through all that trouble and now you can't be bothered? WTF.... Awful clap-trap plot...

ASUADPi 06-11-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1941738)
*DEAD*:D

Yeah, Quinn is just eager to hand her off to whomever. Also, I'm so angry at Idina's character. She's so "baby-centric" she can't even love her own child. That is her flesh and blood! Who cares if she's 16! You went through all that trouble and now you can't be bothered? WTF.... Awful clap-trap plot...

ditto

I wanted to scream when Shelby was all like "she doesn't need me anymore". Hello! What 16 year old doesn't need a mother! Are you kidding me! I'm 31 and I still need my mom.

christiangirl 06-12-2010 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1941645)
I'm actually quite excited about him joining because I loved the episodes on Full House when he would sing.

If every word I said could make you laugh, I'd talk forever.....:D
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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1941967)
ditto

I wanted to scream when Shelby was all like "she doesn't need me anymore". Hello! What 16 year old doesn't need a mother! Are you kidding me! I'm 31 and I still need my mom.

She clearly was saying that just to make herself feel better. I think Shelby knew that she could truly feel Rachel was "hers" when she's got 16 years of history as someone else's daughter. They wouldn't be able to bond the way Rachel would have wanted and Shelby didn't want to a) go for something wasn't easy b) put Rachel through finally having a mother but not completely (in the relationship she wanted). Honestly, I think that when she first said she'd try, she was being more selfish than walking away because she didn't really want to put in the work it'd take to bond with Rachel, she just wanted to pat herself on the back and say "Well, I tried." Rachel losing her mom a second time was devastating but having only part of Shelby's love after dreaming of a magical bond would have been torture and Shelby knew that. I understood that--I think it completely and totally sucks, but I get it.

<---feels obligated to find the good in Shelby because it's Idina

ASUADPi 06-12-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1942106)

<---feels obligated to find the good in Shelby because it's Idina

I know. I love Idina.

ASUADPi 06-24-2010 08:19 AM

I was rewatching the season finale and I got to thinking, I wonder if they got glee fans to fill the auditorium where they filmed regionals. When ND sang the crowd went wild. It reminded me of a concert, people going crazy at certain moments (like when puck started singing or when they began Don't Stop Believin'). While the crowd was doing their thing for VA, they weren't as "into it" as with ND. It just got me thinking that maybe they had fans of the show in the "stands".

ForeverRoses 06-24-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1946862)
I was rewatching the season finale and I got to thinking, I wonder if they got glee fans to fill the auditorium where they filmed regionals. When ND sang the crowd went wild. It reminded me of a concert, people going crazy at certain moments (like when puck started singing or when they began Don't Stop Believin'). While the crowd was doing their thing for VA, they weren't as "into it" as with ND. It just got me thinking that maybe they had fans of the show in the "stands".

It was a contest for glee fans- the entire balcony was full of people who won seats (so the shot of the balcony and the people dancing is actual fans, not paid background people).

I know way to much about this show. ---- I'm off to get a real life, until the new season starts :D

ASUADPi 06-27-2010 09:10 PM

Glee update

Eonline reported that the producers have said that Idina and Jonathan WILL be back periodically next season! Makes sense since ND has to do sectionals then regionals again. Ryan Murphey said that next season ends with Nationals in NYC, so I'm sure regionals and nationals we will see Jonathan and Idina.

Also Taye Diggs said that he is a huge Glee fan and he wants to guest star. That would be pretty cool. I love Taye Diggs!

He could be Rachel's dad!!!!!!!

christiangirl 06-27-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1948101)
Glee update

Eonline reported that the producers have said that Idina and Jonathan WILL be back periodically next season! Makes sense since ND has to do sectionals then regionals again. Ryan Murphey said that next season ends with Nationals in NYC, so I'm sure regionals and nationals we will see Jonathan and Idina.

Also Taye Diggs said that he is a huge Glee fan and he wants to guest star. That would be pretty cool. I love Taye Diggs!

He could be Rachel's dad!!!!!!!

Idina and Taye as Rachel's Parents!!!! :D:D:D:D:D





Though I'm positive that won't happen.

Drolefille 06-27-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1948123)
Idina and Taye as Rachel's Parents!!!! :D:D:D:D:D





Though I'm positive that won't happen.

Hey, Taye and ______ as Rachel's dads. You can't cut the other dad out of their lives!


Idina's not much of a parent right now and doesn't really seem to want to be either.

christiangirl 06-27-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1948127)
Hey, Taye and ______ as Rachel's dads. You can't cut the other dad out of their lives!

Oh no, I meant as her bio dad if she was adopted. Which I'm sure she wasn't IIRC which is why I added that last bit. It was just a great fantasy in my head.

Drolefille 06-27-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1948147)
Oh no, I meant as her bio dad if she was adopted. Which I'm sure she wasn't IIRC which is why I added that last bit. It was just a great fantasy in my head.

She's the bio daughter of one of her dads, they don't know which. (Then they show that she has one black and one white dad, badumdum.) And I assume adopted by the other dad.

ASUADPi 06-28-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1948127)
Hey, Taye and ______ as Rachel's dads. You can't cut the other dad out of their lives!


Idina's not much of a parent right now and doesn't really seem to want to be either.

They can get Taye to play one dad and some other random actor to play the other.

Drolefille 06-28-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1948291)
They can get Taye to play one dad and some other random actor to play the other.

Yeah I know. Hence the blank. I just didn't think it made sense to call one dad and Idina Rachel's parents since other dad's more or a parent than Idina Even as the bio mom, she doesn't have any parental rights nor appear to really want any after her previous attempt.

MysticCat 06-28-2010 11:45 AM

Okay, I'm late, but finally got a chance to watch the finale this weekend. Loved it, and (all you hater young 'uns :p) loved the Journey songs. I thought that was the perfect way to end the season, since that's what it started with.

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1941012)
ND performs so cliche. Standing, smile, move, strong stance. We have heart! We have spirit! Um...sure. VA is more interesting to watch at least.

True, which the judges made fun of. Although I thought Bohemian Rhapsody, as much as I like it, was much less interesting from a musical standpoint. Jesse was the only soloist. ND, on the other hand, mixed the solo lines up. ND was supposed to look earnest and full of heart, while VA was supposed to look like "soulless automatons."

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1941644)
Oral Itensity?

LOL. Like others said, it was Aural Intensity. And Sue made a comment about when she announced they placed -- semething like "the unfortunately-named Aural Intensity."

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1941967)
I wanted to scream when Shelby was all like "she doesn't need me anymore". Hello! What 16 year old doesn't need a mother! Are you kidding me! I'm 31 and I still need my mom.

But you've had a life-long relationship with her. I think Shelby's point was that it was too late to establish a real mother-daughter relationship with Rachel.

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Originally Posted by ASUADPi (Post 1948101)
Glee update

Also Taye Diggs said that he is a huge Glee fan and he wants to guest star. That would be pretty cool. I love Taye Diggs!

He could be Rachel's dad!!!!!!!

The rumor I heard is that he may be Emma's dentist beau.

Drolefille 06-28-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1948336)
Okay, I'm late, but finally got a chance to watch the finale this weekend. Loved it, and (all you hater young 'uns :p) loved the Journey songs. I thought that was the perfect way to end the season, since that's what it started with.

LOL. Like others said, it was Aural Intensity. And Sue made a comment about when she announced they placed -- semething like "the unfortunately-named Aural Intensity."

Ditto on the "coming full circle" aspect of the season.

And I blame the announcer, he made New Directions sound just as dirty.

MysticCat 06-28-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1948340)
And I blame the announcer, he made New Directions sound just as dirty.

I found the quote. At Regionals, Sue announced the runner up this way: "From Fort Wayne, Indiana, the not-at-all stupidly named, Aural Intensity!"

Awesome.

Drolefille 06-28-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1948342)
I found the quote. At Regionals, Sue announced the runner up this way: "From Fort Wayne, Indiana, the not-at-all stupidly named, Aural Intensity!"

Awesome.

I worship the ground Jane Lynch walks on.

ree-Xi 06-28-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1948336)
Okay, I'm late, but finally got a chance to watch the finale this weekend. Loved it, and (all you hater young 'uns :p) loved the Journey songs. I thought that was the perfect way to end the season, since that's what it started with.

True, which the judges made fun of. Although I thought Bohemian Rhapsody, as much as I like it, was much less interesting from a musical standpoint. Jesse was the only soloist. ND, on the other hand, mixed the solo lines up. ND was supposed to look earnest and full of heart, while VA was supposed to look like "soulless automatons."

LOL. Like others said, it was Aural Intensity. And Sue made a comment about when she announced they placed -- semething like "the unfortunately-named Aural Intensity."

But you've had a life-long relationship with her. I think Shelby's point was that it was too late to establish a real mother-daughter relationship with Rachel.

The rumor I heard is that he may be Emma's dentist beau.

I thought that John Stamos was playing the dentist?

PS if you can watch Episode 1 again, Rachel has a picture of her two dads. I didn't recognize them, but perhaps someone can watch and see if they look familiar.

Drolefille 06-28-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1948352)
I thought that John Stamos was playing the dentist?

PS if you can watch Episode 1 again, Rachel has a picture of her two dads. I didn't recognize them, but perhaps someone can watch and see if they look familiar.

Since it was the pilot, odds are it's just a picture and they'd cast other people for the parts, but I'm trying to find the picture online. Someone had to have screen capped it.

ETA: Found icon sized:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...52-100-100.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...54-100-100.jpg

And bigger:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...le/glee_02.jpg

MysticCat 06-28-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1948352)
I thought that John Stamos was playing the dentist?

PS if you can watch Episode 1 again, Rachel has a picture of her two dads. I didn't recognize them, but perhaps someone can watch and see if they look familiar.

Maybe Stamos is playing the dentist. The rumor I read could have been mere speculation.

And here's the photo of Rachel and her dads:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2545/...1622d69e_o.png

Drolefille 06-28-2010 12:40 PM

Dammit MC. *shakes fist*


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