Except that the people who want intelligent design taught in school know exactly how religious it is. They're the ones who repackaged it as faux science. No one else is really fooled. They want to be able to teach that "some supreme being" (aka GOD) created things, but ignore the fact that intelligent design is an equally valid description of what happened when the FSM stretched out his noodly appendage. It's real purpose is an exercise in absurdity. Some of taken the FSM further than that, but that's really all it is.

/Ramen.

That's because Humanists do not believe in the Bible to be the word of God. Same as the Jewish do not believe in the New Testament and Muslims have their own written word. So do you believe they are wrong, too?

It is not flying in the face of it, it is merely saying that it is considered a historical recollection of humans. So, if the intent is not to disparage, what is wrong with that?

Oh and just as an aside, just like I capitalize Christians, Catholics, Baptists, etc. I would appreciate seeing Humanists capitalized. Thank you.

Yeah, I remembered it more as a general attack on religious belief which isn't the point so much as resisting Creationism in the form of ID in schools. My bad.

The ID folks know it's religious. It's the rest of us who I think need to be educated about specifically what they are advocating teaching.

I think a lot of us are open to letting biology teachers acknowledge that students don't have to choose between science and religion and that religious kids don't have to feel that they are adversaries somehow, which real or not, is I think how the real thumpers see it. But that doesn't mean that we're cool with teaching masked Creationism in schools.

I guess that I was slow to catch on to the actual full fledged ID agenda, so I think it could use some more mainstream debunking. When the usual atheists and super-strict-secularists are principally against something, moderate religious people don't necessarily listen as attentively as they should, so everyone is just preaching to the choir.

You gave your opinion and I gave mine. Obviously we don't agree. That's cool.

I didn't call you a coward. If you haven't noticed, I'm not afraid to say what I want to say on here. With that in mind, you should know that if I thought you were a coward, I would have said so straight out.

I don't think you really want your questions answered. I feel you're trying to bait and instigate, and I'm not going to be dragged in because, to quote you, this is going nowhere. So, good night.

You seem to do a lot of back pedaling of your posts. It came across to me, too, that you were calling her a coward and less of a Christian for not speaking up. While you didn't use the exact words, your post implied it. Go back and read what I said about people needing to take the onus for what they say when multiple people interpret it the same way.

I thought you said you were done a few posts ago. So now are you really done, done, done?

Please don't forget to answer my polite, calm, question before you leave.

Sure thanks for asking with respect. I'm happy to "talk" with you anytime. God bless! :)

Can we just say AMEN to this thread and let it be over with.

Dies iræ! dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Dona eis requiem. Amen.

That will be stuck in my head now, thanks.

Love me some Latin.

I say, "Thank God for sororities that are based on making friends (aka sisters,) having fun, learning life skills and serving humanity." I want to know why ITE (IOH, ITH, IOE...IOU, I don't know) thinks it is so noble to disguise a bible study as a sorority when sororities are apparently evil. I could care less if they want to get together and discuss the bible....more power to them. But...I reserve the right to make fun of any and all people, whether they're Christian or not, if they are ignorant and deserve mockery! Thank you for any blessings in advance, but you're wasting your time.

Bless you.


Don't hit me! :p

May the Lord watch
Between me and thee
While we are absent
One from another
AMEN!

I'm sorry, that's private ritual information.

Thanks LG, b/c I had no idea.

Actually, what ladygreek wrote was the Mizpah poem (they print it on coins and those pendants that break apart for best friends or significant others).

What I wrote was from the Dies iræ part of the Requiem mass:

Dies iræ! dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Day of wrath and terror looming!
Heaven and earth to ash consuming,


And then I skipped to the end (I didn't see any reason to type all 17 verses):

dona eis requiem. Amen.
grant it rest. Amen.