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Sista 04-04-2007 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1423875)
Black, African-American, Colored, and Negro are all different titles for the same concept. I and other posters were referring to concepts, not names. We are talking about the basic ways in which people understand racial categories and the fact that such things as racial categories were invented. As much as you want to take credit for your Uhuru philosophy, it is not individual. It is based on the placing of people of detectable African descent into one category together, which you learned at a young age. All humans are socialized, and that doesn't make you less of an independent thinker.


My Uhuru philosophy? Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?

By the way, are you an independent thinker? You seem to be hell bent on taking away from me my ability to think for my self, yet you push what you have been taught and not what you perceive from an individual basis.


All that you have spat here in this topic, is what you accept, I don't have to accept what you accept. You can believe all you want that the people around you get to title you but I don't have to believe what you believe. All that you learn in school is stolen and plagiarized philosophy. Originally, it was the rich who could afford to invest in their philosophy and create universities which would expand their philosophy out of others. I said that to say this, it was an individual alone who is responsible for what you know and what you have accepted to be the truth. That type of education no doubt, has it perks but one needs to also generate ones own ideals from with in.

If I was able to finance and promote my as you say, "Uhuru philosophy", all that you believe in right now would be challeneged. As I am sure I am not the only one who does not follow what you yourself has chosen to accept. :cool:

laylo 04-04-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1423888)
My Uhuru philosophy? Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?

By the way, are you an independent thinker? You seem to be hell bent on taking away from me my ability to think for my self, yet you push what you have been taught and not what you perceive from an individual basis.


All that you have spat here in this topic, is what you accept, I don't have to accept what you accept. You can believe all you want that the people around you get to title you but I don't have to believe what you believe. All that you learn in school is stolen and plagiarized philosophy. Originally, it was the rich who could afford to invest in their philosophy and create universities which would expand their philosophy out of others. I said that to say this, it was an individual alone who is responsible for what you know and what you have accepted to be the truth. That type of education no doubt, has it perks but one needs to also generate ones own ideals from with in.

If I was able to finance and promote my as you say, "Uhuru philosophy", all that you believe in right now would be challeneged. As I am sure I am not the only one who does not follow what you yourself has chosen to accept. :cool:


Sista, the hostility is completely unnecessary. This is a dialogue. When I disagree with you I state why, and vice versa. Debate is presenting opposing arguments, and I presented mine which opposes yours. No one is personally attacking you.

ETA: I don't know why you were offended by my calling your philospohy "Uhuru," but I did so because of an organization called Uhuru which promotes a view similar to yours. If you had referred to my ideas as a "Graves philosophy" I would have thought it displayed education, not nerve.

AKA_Monet 04-04-2007 03:23 PM

Sista,

You are simply stating that we never had a choice in the matter, that I stated about 6 pages ago.

We have been involved in this "society" for roughly ~150 years since "emancipation". What more do we expect? We are lucky we get referred to by our names. Much less than what they use to call us... And some folks want to refer to us just as numbers--or "Pickaninny" or "Buck"... That's a good name... :rolleyes:

DSTCHAOS 04-04-2007 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1423836)
Please excuse me, I didn't know you were so dictatorial, Oh, but then again, I did ;)

Good.

pinkies up 04-04-2007 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1423836)
Please excuse me, I didn't know you were so dictatorial, Oh, but then again, I did ;)


Mr. Chaos, what gives you the right to say what is and what is not debatable? You like for people do get the terms correct? You have a lot of nerve. I wasn't insulted at all, I was being sarcastic and at the same time letting you know that I could read in betweeen your sublte lines.

Hey, are you a white man? You strike me as one :eek:

CTFU!!!! LMAO!!!!! I'm sorry, that was the quote of the year!!!!:D :D

DSTRen13 04-04-2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1423888)
My Uhuru philosophy? Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?

If you don't like Greeks, then why are you here? I just really don't understand what the heck you are doing on this message board ... :confused:

AKA_Monet 04-05-2007 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1424285)
If you don't like Greeks, then why are you here? I just really don't understand what the heck you are doing on this message board ... :confused:


Cuz' gwirl she heard some hype and wanted to see what we are all about... I saw it ~10 years ago and endure such hatred. I was unsure how long it would take to permeate toward the East Coast... Guess that answers that question.

You will see more of this thought pattern.

Sista 04-05-2007 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1423901)
Sista, the hostility is completely unnecessary. This is a dialogue. When I disagree with you I state why, and vice versa. Debate is presenting opposing arguments, and I presented mine which opposes yours. No one is personally attacking you.

Hostility? I didn't know that informing you that your acceptance of letting people title you does not apply to me was hostility?

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Originally Posted by laylo (Post 1423901)
ETA: I don't know why you were offended by my calling your philospohy "Uhuru," but I did so because of an organization called Uhuru which promotes a view similar to yours. If you had referred to my ideas as a "Graves philosophy" I would have thought it displayed education, not nerve.

I don't like how you talked condescending when you said
"your, Uhuru Philosophy."

Also, I don't need you to tell me what Uhuru is, I live up the street from a Uhuru house and I know some of the members.

You can try and pretend as though you were not down talking me or Uhuru when you said what you said but I know better. If you were not insulting me or Uhuru philosophy, you would not have indirectly compared Uhuru philosophy to the philosophy of Social construction and then labeled my thinking as Uhuru philosophy. I guess I wasn't supposed to be sharp enough to realize what you were actually saying.

Sista 04-05-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1423979)
Sista,

You are simply stating that we never had a choice in the matter, that I stated about 6 pages ago.

We have been involved in this "society" for roughly ~150 years since "emancipation". What more do we expect? We are lucky we get referred to by our names. Much less than what they use to call us... And some folks want to refer to us just as numbers--or "Pickaninny" or "Buck"... That's a good name... :rolleyes:

Oh my God! I had forgotten about those names when I was naming my list of names we blacks in America have been referred to. I knew I had forgotten something but wasn't quite sure. Well, can you blame me? :(


Any way, how are you? My dear sister.

Sista 04-05-2007 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13 (Post 1424285)
If you don't like Greeks, then why are you here? I just really don't understand what the heck you are doing on this message board ... :confused:

Are you Greek?

Sista 04-05-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1424345)
Cuz' gwirl she heard some hype and wanted to see what we are all about... I saw it ~10 years ago and endure such hatred. I was unsure how long it would take to permeate toward the East Coast... Guess that answers that question.

You will see more of this thought pattern.


Actually, that is not the reason why I am here. I Actually tumbled up on this place by accident. I was googling something and Greekchat came up showing all these topics concerning black people and I became interested in the topics, so I joined.

Is that a crime?

macallan25 04-05-2007 11:46 AM

God you suck.

I hope you stub your toe today.

Sista 04-05-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25 (Post 1424557)
God you suck.

I hope you stub your toe today.

LMAO :D

Dionysus 04-05-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1424534)
Actually, that is not the reason why I am here. I Actually tumbled up on this place by accident. I was googling something and Greekchat came up showing all these topics concerning black people and I became interested in the topics, so I joined.

Is that a crime?

Bitch, you is allllll kinds of crazy!!!!11

laylo 04-05-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1424521)
Hostility? I didn't know that informing you that your acceptance of letting people title you does not apply to me was hostility?

No, I think "Some of you people in here really have a lot of nerve. This Greek stuff has really gotten to you colored people. Or would you prefer Negro?" displayed hostility. And as I said before, I wasn't talking about titles, I was talking about concepts of race.

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1424521)
If you were not insulting me or Uhuru philosophy, you would not have indirectly compared Uhuru philosophy to the philosophy of Social construction and then labeled my thinking as Uhuru philosophy.

I don't see comparing your view to other views as insulting and I truly don't understand how you do. Just another example of how we see things differently. Furthermore I never even disagreed with the philosphy I likened to Uhuru, I simply argued that it was based on social constructs.

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Originally Posted by Sista (Post 1424521)
I guess I wasn't supposed to be sharp enough to realize what you were actually saying.

It didn't seem to me that you understood what I meant since you took it as an insult when it was not. I explained myself to remedy the conflict between what you recieved and what I meant.


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