This is so tru.....All of yall that are working for any corpoartion or the government are the ones that are truly being hoodwinked. Anytime you are working for somebody else you are working to build their dream. At least now I know I am workin to build my dream. And I see the benefits already(2mos) since joining Agel. For real If I never maid any money in Agel, I would do it for the tax benefits alone. But its alot of misonceptions about MLM. And I dont push anything on anybody. I show them an opportunity. If they see it thats fine if not thats cool. I am looking for people that are looking. There are some "schams" out there,and those are the companies that give MLM a bad name.. But most MLM companies are great companies.

I know tons of people who have made major $ in MLM...so to me its is far from a scham....MLM is helping me reach my dreams as we speak...its a scam how your employer makes you think your ,401k or your pesnion is gonna secure your future...thats a real scam....

Len, I'm sorry you've become a victim of yet another Multi Level Marketing rip-off. You probably believed the hard sell you were given. Tell me.. how much did they make you pay up-front to become a distributor?

A person on another website wrote this, regarding what LenBias is trying to push:


Dear Agel Rep,

Why sell gel when u can give your account number and some dude in nigeria will t/t millions (YES.. MILLIONS of US$) of dollars to your account?

All they ask is that u return some to them (probably somewhere in the region of 75%-90% for your favor!)

Lost Sheep

http://www.alloexpat.com/malaysia_ex...10331&start=90

Len, you said lots of people make money in MLM-- well... the truth is.. the only people who make "lots of money" are the people who start these scams and are at the very, very, very top of the food chain.

There was another MLM scam going around where I work called Meliluca. These people had drunk the kool aide and were trying to recruit, non-stop.. even at my company on company time! They are truly brainwashed, and it's really quite scarey.

People in my company complained to HR, and these people were banned from bugging anyone at work. So they took their pitch outside of their jobs.. they were bugging their family, their friends, EVERYONE to join (there was little money in selling the product-- it was all about recruiting bodies and getting them to pay up front for the products each new rep were forced to buy and got stuck with!)

Five years later-- none of these people had made any money. All gave up, and all lost hundreds of dollars.

LenBias
 

Hey, "Len",

Why are you trying to pass yourself off as a long-dead basketball player? I knew Len when we were both at the University of Maryland. He was friends with one of my roommates. It's just strange to see someone use his name. His life was so sadly cut short.

Re: LenBias
 

I got the name because my real name is "Lenny" .....so my teammates and my LB's just started calling me Len Bias..he was a great ball player inspite of all his issues.....thats why the name just kinda stuck

Like I said me...I dont bug anyone...i show them the opportunity and leave it at that..If they choose to come on board cool if not thats cool too....Im still gettin my $....that tax benefits ALONE was a major pay day for me......but I dont bug anyone like I said..Im sure some MLM companies do that but that not howwe do things at Agel....not to mention alot of the products we have are doing alot of postives things for my family and friends..so thats good enough for me in and of itself....Im sorry for your negative experiences with MLM.l.I reallly am....but as for me..just in my first couple of months with AGEL things couldnt be better.....and Im not brainwashed so you can CANCEL that right there..i am my own man b4 anything else....i evalauted Agel..weighed the Pros and Cons..and the benfits far out weighed the negatives......and calling me "Victim"..How? My tax return went up a couple of thousand dollars....and im makin about a $1000 per month already..and Im 22...shit if you call that being a victim..TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ME ALL DAY.....but yeah..I am with a great comapny and I am working with great people...what other job can you choose who you work with? I cant think of any....and Agel or MLM is not for everyone..and it was clearly not for you...I wish you nothing but success and Financial Freedom at your career

:) ;)

Len, you still didn't answer my question...

How much money were you required to pay upfront to get started in the company?

For MK it costs 100.00 for your starter kit. But that includes a full size product of every fondation, lotion, cleanser, etc etc.


I dont' understand why this thread is still living on.

Ummmm.... Len doesn't sell MK. At least judging from his posts... though i'm not sure, they're a little hard to read.

It's living on because it's an interesting discussion.

'Tis true. I always wondered why my friends/sorority sisters who sold Mary Kay either a) didn't stick with it for very long, or b) didn't make any money, but this thread has shed a little light on both those questions.

So yesterday when I was lost in Dallas, I drove past the Mary Kay headquarters.

I didn't know whether to wave or stick my tongue out at it.

Lol. Which one did you choose?

Okay...okay
 

Lets set the record straight:

To start a Mary Kay business you need 100.00 plus shipping (8.00) and sales tax on 100.00 here in MA it would be 5%. You get everything you need to do 30 + faces with over 300.00 in full retail size product. You make that back with your first facial. The price for the starter kit has stayed the same for years now (over 10 I think, but don't want to state something I am not sure of). A very small investment to see if it is right for you. And if it is not, you can keep the 300 dollars worth of product for yourself or sell it to friends and make a profit on it... whatever!

2nd: To become active, you place a 200.00 whol sale order (400.00 retail - where You make 200.00 after selling it). Your profit, everyone's profit is 50%. An even playing field. I think you have 3 or 4 months to do this, and if you don't, then you become inactive. When you want to reactivate, you pay like a 10.00 fee. To remain active, the absolute minimum you have to purchase is $200.00 wholesale in a year to remain active,again that is 400.00 retail. Sell your product for 400.00 that you purchased for 200.00. With this, you receive a magazine every month with encouragement, new product info and what not. There are unit meetings everywhere but you are not required to go, you have no boss, and can get all the info you need on-line or through the monthly magazine. Your recruiter is not your boss, your director is not your boss. This is your business... you can buy the product and give it away or sell it to your friends at wholesale price or just use it for yourself and get the discount. No rules on that.

3rd: We don't sell in stores for a few reasons. Mary Kay Ash built the company on personal contact. We teach and share and offer personalized service. This is an in-home product. Also, if we sold in stores, it would raise the price drastically as it would if we advertised.

4th: You don't have to recruit, it depends on where you want to go and what you want to make. It is not a pyramid scheme. If I recruite someone, and she sells 400.00 in one month, the company then sends me a percentage of that sale. It does not come out of the consultants earnings.

You can make this company whatever you want and do whatever you want. Become a consultant for personal use and get products at wholesale, have a class a week an make 50-100 per hour, recruit and make more and earn the use of 1 of 3 of the cars Mary Kay has to offer. If you want to go far and fast up the ladder, there are always peers and directors who will hold your hand and take you there. It is really ... ALL ABOUT YOU!

Oh... one more thing...

like Annnyy JOB or anything in life for that matter, "You get out of it, what you put into it." So many people quit after a week and say.. "aww... it didn't work." as their starter kit sat in it's box. I think no... You didn't work. I have to say though that it isn't for everyone.. some people might try it and find that it is not for them... But they were sharp enough to get all the info and give it their best... and now they know and can move onto something else. I applaud them!

Peace,
athenalex1020

This is sooooooooo true and I also agree 100% with your previous post. Its pretty much the same idea with Agel. And for the perosn that asked. I came in at the the $1000 level but you can come in at the 200$ or $600 level. Check out my website for more info.