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$5 to whoever can remember what the original point of this thread was! ;)
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you found me out :eek: |
Y'all sure are overprotective of your tee shirts.
I understand that if someone disassociates, she is expected to give up ritual items (pin, etc.) -- but that does not, in my opinion, include lettered shirts. To expect someone to give up clothes that they paid for with their own money just because they aren't a member just strikes me as very odd. I mean, I would prefer that they don't go walking down the street in letters singing, "I'm so happy that I am a Kappa Kappa Gamma" or whatever, but if they're just wearing them around the house or to go running or whatever, what's the problem there? It's a tee shirt, for Christ's sake. The amount of lettered stuff I have probably adds up to a couple hundred dollars, minimum, at this point -- if I disaffiliated and you want that back, you can reimburse me. Otherwise I don't see why you have any right to any of it. Now clearly in Joanna's (Johanna?) case it's a little different -- she's "just wearing the shirts around the house," but she's also on national television. And if she signed her disassociation papers and they included a clause that she had to return all lettered stuff, it's a moot point. She is legally bound to that. However, not all organizations have similar policies, and for those that don't, I think it's pretty tacky to ask for the letters back (and naturally, I think it's pretty tacky to pretend you're a member of an organization when you're not, but I tend to expect that most people can behave rationally in that situation, you know? And those that can't probably won't be giving the letters back even if you do ask nicely). I also think people need to understand that there are many, many reasons for disassociation and that 90 percent of them don't involve hating the national organization, but that's another thread. |
It was about the chick from Real World who terminated her membership in Gamma Phi but wore letters on TV. Personally, I can't see why someone would want to wear letters of something they voluntarily left.
Usually when a sister terminates from my chapter of Sigma, they return our official property like badges and ritual items. The termination document states that they no longer have rights to anything with our name or letters on it. We've never had a problem getting letters and other items back. If the sister paid for the items, they'll usuallu either give them up to their little or someone OR sell them to girls for cheap and keep the money. The best way to avoid issues like this is to MAKE SURE your new members know and understand whatever your policies are BEFORE initiation. |
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I just got a PM from someone too. " You are a GOD Bobby. Seriousy, you f'in rule. You know in the movie Team America? ' America...&*%$ yeah' . Well, it should be, Bobby The Don...*&* Yeah!. You seriously rule, you are so funny, damn handsome and can eat food faster than Kobyashi. I wish I was as cool as you. " I f'in rule man. |
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Even Earth, Wind, and Fire can tell you about reasons. The point is that if you choose to disassociate you need not wear the 'nalia. You no longer need to own the 'nalia as far as many of us are concerned. Once again, simple concepts. |
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I wish everyone in this thread would stop acting like every college/sorority/chapter/family/fill in the blank is the same.
I never applied for financial aid, and I know that there are deadlines. On MY campus. I also know that the only loan you can get is an emergency student loan which is $200 and has to be paid back before the next semester or the interest raises. In my chapter we've had many girls deactivate. No we don't want them wearing our letters or keeping the stickers on their car. But it happens. The girls who left on good terms never have a problem wearing Phi Mu after they leave. I've seen a few girls wearing Greek Week tshirts and even a set of sweatshirt letters. As far as I know they were sent a reminder email not to wear it by the president or someone on eboard. It wasn't the place of a member to say anything, at least that's how I felt. And the only thing girls HAVE to give back to eboard or whoever, are their badge and certificate. If we see a deactivated sister with letters on, we don't attack her (not sayin that anyone in this thread mentioned any attacking) but of course she'll get the occasional dirty look. But she looks even dumber because all the Greeks know she's not a member anymore. (small school, all the social Greek orgs know each other) And, in my chapter, I've never seen a sister get kicked out because of financial reasons... and I've heard of some pretty large bills. I duno what Phi Mu national rules are on this, but usually our girls will do some sort of payment plan with the treasurer and they are put on social probation. We've never kicked anyone out or forced anyone to leave, as far as when I was active. I'd be embarrassed if a girl was forced to leave after losing a family member and having financial problems. Thank God we never had a house and had to deal with that kind of stuff... but I think still then we wouldn't force anyone to leave. That's harsh. Someone people in this thread are being complete bitches. If you wana get your point across drop the attitude. There's no point in being a bitch unless it makes yourself feel better that you "bitched" someone out on the internet. Woohoo look at me I'm tryin to be bitchy! And I could care less if I spelled anything wrong in here. Blah. |
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