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YEp I get it all the time..... My Boyfriend is the president of Intergreek Association and Vice prez of Tau Kappa Epsilon...which is dandy until people treat us weird because we are both African American in predominately white orgs...and surprisingly are extremely active in our communities. not just the "token".

However I could care less...Judge me ..atleast I know people are paying attention..haha

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Originally Posted by GR∑∆TChan (Post 1649516)

Are the majority of people who treat you weird minorities or White? And can you recall any specific examples of how they treated you weird?

Btw, shoutout to your bf :D:p

The funny thing is it comes from both ends........when I say weird I meant that we are constantly the topic of conversation within predominately cultural orgs...and ever since we went greek we have people that act rather shady.lol...Its a intangible feeling I assume.

My chapter is especially diverse and we are the most diverse NPC chapter on campus, and it has always been that way. I chose my chapter because of the women in it, not because of the outward diversity.
It always just makes me chuckle when people see my letters and ask me "Oh, you pledged Zeta? No offense to the Zetas, but just because I'm black and you see a "Phi Beta" it doesn't automatically mean Zeta Phi Beta.

(((hugs)))) to joliebelle for making me laugh!

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Originally Posted by GR∑∆TChan (Post 1649516)

and surprisingly are extremely active in our communities. not just the "token".

Why is it "surprisingly?"

Being extremely active in your communities doesn't preclude you both being the "tokens" in your organizations. That depends on the dynamics.

Is it still an issue at this point?

If anything, I've noticed more eyebrows raised when a black girl joins a "lower-tier" NPC sorority...

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1649774)

Is it still an issue at this point?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1649774)

Is it still an issue at this point?

If anything, I've noticed more eyebrows raised when a black girl joins a "lower-tier" NPC sorority...

Is the impression "That house must really need members so they'll take a black PNM?"

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Originally Posted by tld221 (Post 1649786)

Is the impression "That house must really need members so they'll take a black PNM?"

I remember one of the SEC people on here mentioning that the higher tiered organizations at many schools don't have diversity.

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1649789)

I remember one of the SEC people on here mentioning that the higher tiered organizations at many schools don't have diversity.

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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1649396)

I don't think it's common. Maybe where you're at, but not overall. Here there are a lot of good sororities with some Asian or Hispanic members, a couple middle-tier houses have a (usually mixed) black girl or two, but about the most diverse you'll see at the good IFC houses are a couple of Jews, MAYBE.

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1649789)

I remember one of the SEC people on here mentioning that the higher tiered organizations at many schools don't have diversity.

oh ok, thanks, I totally took that the wrong way. I have been reading too many oldu threads.

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1649796)

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hewwo

tanku

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1649800)

oh ok, thanks, I totally took that the wrong way. I have been reading too many oldu threads.

How'd you take it? It may not have been the wrong way.

It's one thing to state the obvious and another thing to say that higher tiered orgs shouldn't have diversity because that goes against "tiers of humanity" or something. I usually take comments about tier and diversity to be saying the latter.

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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1649827)

I would say at one point it was the latter. And because of that, houses had no black kids, and because houses had no black kids, black kids assumed they couldn't get bids there and didn't go by. So now no black kids go by the top houses, so the top houses don't have any black members, which further discourages any more black kids from coming by and keeps the cycle going.

Yes. The cycle of life keeps going.

That's because it still IS the latter. It's the latter on both an individual and systematic level. You have people who think that way and you have a structure that operates that way. Hence, racial and ethnic minorities' seeing the absence of minorities to mean that minorities wouldn't get a bid. And some minorities who do get bids will feel and be treated like a "token."

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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1649827)

Also we're looking for fratty/preppy guys, a style that the vast majority of black guys, even those who rush, won't fall into.

*ignoring your statement about black males because I know it to be untrue on a larger scale*

It isn't "fratty/preppy." Fratty and preppy are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by SouthernFratter (Post 1649827)

And to further complicate it, a lot of good houses do a one-man blackball rush system, and the odds are good that when you get 140 upperclass, preppy white guys from the south together that you're going to have at least one guy in the group who would prefer not to hang around black kids.

I agree and that's one reason why it still IS the latter.