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mu_agd 03-24-2005 12:54 PM

The US Supreme Court has just rejected the appeal.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/24/schiavo/index.html

moe.ron 03-24-2005 01:03 PM

She can finally rest in peace.

DeltAlum 03-24-2005 02:00 PM

I think there's still the last ditch effort by Gov. Jeb Bush to have her made a ward of the state.

I hope this ends soon.

WCUgirl 03-24-2005 03:13 PM

Memories Diverge on What Terri Wanted

The article addresses the testimony in the 2000 trial that caused Judge Greer to rule agains the Schindlers.

BetteDavisEyes 03-24-2005 05:24 PM

I'm hoping this will all be over soon. It's time for her parents to spend her last days w/her instead of wasting time with futile efforts.

May she finally rest in peace.

sageofages 03-24-2005 05:51 PM

Interesting op-ed
 
Defining language of politics

By Frank Cerabino

Palm Beach Post Columnist

Wednesday, March 23, 2005

To: All Political Partisans

From: Cerabino and Associates

Subject: Definitions Redefined


The battle over keeping Terri Schiavo's feeding tube in place, in this, her 16th year in a vegetative state, has created a new political paradigm here in Florida, as well as America.

Many old definitions, rallying cries and fighting words have had to be scrapped, or at least ignored, until further notice.

And ground rules for engagement with the enemy need to be reevaluated until the Schiavo case is firmly behind us. So for the time being, please tread carefully, and consider the following definitional shifts:

State's rights — An antiquated concept stressed during an era when Republicans didn't control the White House, both houses of the U.S. Congress, and the U.S. Supreme Court. State's rights are no longer necessary, especially in Florida — which should have learned its lesson five years ago.

Rule of law — A once-popular American value which has now been relegated, solely as an export, to unwilling foreign countries. Domestically, the rule of law has been replaced by "erring on the side of life."

Life — Something guaranteed only to fetuses and people who are at death's door. People who are actually born and sentient, however, are subject to exploratory wars, deregulation of toxic pollutants, capital punishment and the philosophy that health care is a costly "entitlement" program that needs serious trimming in order to preserve and expand tax cuts on investment income.

Conservative — Used to be somebody who thought most forms of government involvement produced more harm than good. Now, only applies to business regulation.

Liberal — Replace "bleeding-heart" with "killer."

The right to privacy — Go easy on this one. For the time being, it is superceded by The Power of Prayer.

Activist judges — This used to be a pejorative term to describe any judge who insisted on the separation of church and state or was willing to cut against the grain of institutionalized prejudices against gay people. However, now that Schiavo's fate may rely on some judges getting creatively active, this adjective will no longer be used to denigrate judges we don't like.

Persistent vegetative state — Vibrant.

It's OK to heed the pope again — The Vatican is a vocal supporter of keeping Schiavo alive. This will come as a great relief to some who have had to delicately ignore the Vatican on its denunciation of the war in Iraq.

Sen. Bill Frist — Until further notice, he will be referred to as "Dr. Bill Frist", a physician/legislator who specializes in videotape diagnoses of people who might further improve his viability as a future presidential candidate.

Special interest group — A term that must only be used to describe feminists, civil libertarians, environmentalists, and other blue-state whiners. Christian zealots must never be marginalized by this term. They shall instead be elevated with the title "values voters" or "people of faith."

Sanctity of marriage — Put this expression on the shelf for a while. If the wishes of Michael Schiavo, the husband and legal surrogate of his wife, were sanctified as a controlling authority, there wouldn't be a political football for Tallahassee and Washington to pounce on.

Unconstitutional law — Used to be an indication of poor governance. But now it's an intentional legal blunder you rush to pass — often in exuberant emergency sessions — in an effort to impress values voters.

HelloKitty22 03-24-2005 06:06 PM

That pretty much sums it up :)

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-25-2005 04:09 PM

Quote:

ATLANTA - For the third time in four days, Terri Schiavo's parents asked the same federal appeals court to order the reinsertion of their brain-damaged daughter's feeding tube. Their move came hours after a federal judge refused the same request.
"Mom can I have some candy?" "no"
"Can I have some candy?" "No"
"Can I have some candy?" "No"
"Can I have some candy?" "No"
"Can I have some candy?" "No"
"Can I have some candy?" "No"
"Can I have some candy?" "No"

moe.ron 03-25-2005 04:15 PM

Quote:

the courts do not have the final say
-The Rev. Patrick Mahoney

Link to the Quote

Whoa!!!! I'm sure he wish that the church have the final say.

IowaStatePhiPsi 03-25-2005 04:23 PM

I'm willing to bet the moment Terri dies her parents will try to file civil suits, wrongful death suits, etc against Michael Shiavo , the doctors and the state and federal judges.

moe.ron 03-25-2005 04:34 PM

I wouldn't be suprise if one of the nutcases decided to try to kill the judges or Michael. So much for "pro life."

ztawinthropgirl 03-25-2005 04:37 PM

I talked with my mom last night, and her opinion is "These parents are just living in the past and need to just let go of it. I'm sure she was a wonderful person before she went into the state she's in now. There have only been a few persons that have woken up from these things so she has a slim to none chance to wake. It's not like she's going to wake up and say 'Hey! what's been going on for the past 15 years?'"

IF (and that's a very big 'if') she should wake up, the first President Bush was President. To an extent, nothing's changed politically. LOL

sageofages 03-25-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moe.ron
-The Rev. Patrick Mahoney

Link to the Quote

Whoa!!!! I'm sure he wish that the church have the final say.

Some times people hear what they want to hear when a sound is uttered by a dying person. After 7 days without hydration and nutrition, I am willing to believe she is in the final stages of her death process. Many strange things happen with the body during that time.

I do not believe she tried to speak. If she didn't at ANY time during the previous 15 years when BEGGED to say anything, she would not be doing it now.

Optimist Prime 03-26-2005 12:11 AM

yeah.....the supreme court did a great job on providing a check/balance on congress

RUgreek 03-26-2005 01:36 PM

Conservatives claim to have discovered a device that can read Terri's thoughts and translate them into words that can be projected from a speaker.

Now that's deplorable.


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