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toocute 11-24-2003 11:00 AM

Re: Re: girl!!
 
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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Seeeee that is what happens without the benefit of our EXCELLENT fashion advice.

You end up old and with an s-curl. Damn shame.

:p

WORD....he is living PROOF that S curl should be taken off the market ASAP.

CrimsonTide4 11-24-2003 11:24 AM

Russ Parr this morning shared that they had found love letters written from Michael to victim. Oh and Michael had a pet name for him -- Rubba. :eek: :o

There was something else too but I forget.

WenD08 11-24-2003 05:43 PM

i was watching one of those entertainment news shows today and they showed footage from MJ's home. he has a room that looked like a shrine to little boys. there were pix of little boys all over walls, including several of McAuley (sic) Culkin.
it looked creepy:eek: for an adult male to have pix of unrelated children plastered all around a room. it does make one wonder...

darling1 11-24-2003 05:51 PM

oh boy!!
 
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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Russ Parr this morning shared that they had found love letters written from Michael to victim. Oh and Michael had a pet name for him -- Rubba. :eek: :o

There was something else too but I forget.

russ parr is out of control and off the chain!!!lol

lovelyivy84 11-24-2003 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by WenD08
i was watching one of those entertainment news shows today and they showed footage from MJ's home. he has a room that looked like a shrine to little boys. there were pix of little boys all over walls, including several of McAuley (sic) Culkin.
it looked creepy:eek: for an adult male to have pix of unrelated children plastered all around a room. it does make one wonder...

This is soooooooooo gross. I dont know if Michael did it this time- the parent of this kid is either a sociopath trying to get a set-up or the Dumbest Person On the Planet.

But THIS just freaks me out. Eeeeeeew!

CrimsonTide4 11-24-2003 06:12 PM

Courtesy of 1SavvyDiva
 
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL114/...8/38930645.jpg

1savvydiva 11-24-2003 06:26 PM

THANKS...maybe my anger was hampering my picture posting skills or something. :D

CrimsonTide4 11-24-2003 08:49 PM

Michael Defends Himself on a Website
 
Jacko Launches Web Defense
Mon Nov 24,12:00 PM ET

By Lia Haberman

Michael Jackson may be in hiding since his arrest last week on child-molestation charges, but the musician has made his presence felt on the Internet, where he's launched a Website in his defense.


Addressing his "fans, friends and family," on www.mjnews.us Jackson said that the allegations against him are "predicated on a big lie" and that he would be cleared of wrongdoing in court.


Jackson sparked a media blitz when he turned himself in to Santa Barbara authorities on Thursday after an arrest warrant was issued alleging he committed lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14.


Released on $3 million bail, the Gloved One went into seclusion this weekend. While he remained holed up in the Las Vegas-area at an "undisclosed location," according to his spokesman, the music superstar didn't keep quiet on the controversy surrounding him.


"As you know, the charges recently directed at me are terribly serious," Jacko wrote in a five-paragraph statement. They are, however, predicated on a big lie. This will be shown in court, and we will be able to put this horrible time behind us."


"Big lie" is the same phrase previously used by Jackson's attorney and spokesperson in the campaign to clear his name.


But just to be clear, not all spin in the press is sanctioned. Beware those talking heads who claim to represent Jacko, instead the site will serve as a "source of official communications" on his legal woes.


"You are right to be skeptical of some of the individuals who are being identified in the mass media as my friends, spokespeople, and attorneys. With few exceptions, most of them are simply filling a desperate void in our culture that equates visibility with insight," wrote Jackson.


"We will not engage in speculation. We will not provide running commentary on every new development or allegation du jour. We intend to try our case in the courtroom, not in the public or the media," added the onetime King of Pop.


Another voice raised in Jackson's defense was that of longtime friend Elizabeth Taylor (news), who issued a statement Sunday through her publicist saying Jackson "is absolutely innocent" and will be "vindicated."


Taylor, whose 1991 nuptials to construction worker Larry Fortensky took place at Neverland, had previously refused to comment on the multiple charges of child molestation "because the press have behaved so abominably towards Michael," she said.


Indeed, Hollywood's grand dame blasted the media for their take on the sordid tale. "Their whole reaction is that he is guilty," said the 71-year-old. "I thought the law was 'innocent until proven guilty.' I know he is innocent and I hope they all eat crow," added Taylor.


Ten years ago, Taylor flew to Singapore to lend support to Jackson when he was on tour and accused of child molestation. Jackson avoided criminal charges in that case by settling a civil suit filed by the boy's family for an alleged $15 million to $20 million.


However, not everyone feels like singing Jackson's praises. A marching band from Indiana has scrapped its plans to perform Jackson's mega-hit "Thriller" at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade this week. Bloomington High School North's band director told the New York Times playing the song would be inappropriate in light of the child-molestation charges leveled against Jacko.

9dstpm 11-24-2003 11:50 PM

I won't even watch the first 10-15 minutes of the news anymore because it's Michael Jackson, Iraq, and Bush. I can't be bothered. I'm tired.

CrimsonTide4 11-28-2003 12:38 AM

Michael Jackson Has Support From Blacks
 
Michael Jackson Has Support From Blacks
Thu Nov 27, 5:09 PM ET Add Entertainment - AP to My Yahoo!


By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer

NEW YORK - His once broad nose has been surgically whittled to the size of a pencil. His formerly brown skin is now off-white. His woolly afro has been replaced by a sleek, straightened 'do.



Michael Jackson (news)'s physical transformation — along with his two marriages to white women — has led to questions about his standing in the black community. But since his arrest on child molestation charges, some blacks have reacted as if a family member were in handcuffs.


Even though Jackson and some other black stars "seem like they hang around with white folks all the time, even though they distance themselves from us seemingly, at the end of the day, we still claim them," says Jamie Foster Brown, publisher of the celebrity monthly magazine Sister 2 Sister. "Because when black people get in trouble, white people tend to look at the whole race anyway."


Jackson certainly has plenty of black detractors, as well as non-black supporters like his friend Elizabeth Taylor (news). But judging by the response to his arrest from chat rooms, radio broadcasts and man-on-the-street conversations, there is more willingness in the black community to give Jackson the benefit of the doubt.


"I did a vigil," said Audrey Martin, a 58-year-old retired home care attendant from Fairfield, Calif. "He can't change that he's black, He's black whether or not he wanted to get rid of the black nose."


"African-Americans have had an extremely negative experience with the criminal justice system," says Roland Martin, founder and editor of the Web site BlackAmericaToday.com "We more than anybody else believe in innocent until proven guilty."


There has been a tinge of suspicion that the allegations against Jackson are about more than child abuse. Jermaine Jackson likened his brother's arrest to a "lynching."


It's a sentiment similar to when O.J. Simpson (news) was charged with murder, Mike Tyson was convicted of rape, and even as Kobe Bryant's rape case proceeds.


"That's the first thing (blacks) say — the same thing with O.J. — they're trying to bring down a black man," says Brown. "There is a reason for that, because there's always been lynching, be it physical or otherwise, since slavery."


Fueling such beliefs are factors such as Jackson's home being raided on the same day his greatest hits album "Number Ones" was released, and the jovial demeanor of Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon as he announced the charges (Sneddon later apologized).


Jesse Jackson said the arrest was so "impeccably timed that it leads to even more suspicions. ... It seems aimed to destroy this media mogul."


He also questioned whether the singer was being treated more harshly than other celebrities — namely white ones. In an interview with The Associated Press, Jackson noted that the bail in Phil Spector's murder case was $1 million while Jackson's was $3 million, and questioned why there was no massive televised raid on Rush Limbaugh's home when reports surfaced that he had bought illegal drugs.


Evoking the cases of other black male celebrities who have been charged with crimes, he said: "One gets a sense that there is an emerging pattern here, and these high profile blacks who perhaps think they are the exception are maybe the example after all."


Black people defending Michael Jackson may seem bizarre to some, given his appearance and actions. Although Jackson has expressed black pride and blames his skin-lightening on vitiligo, a disease that causes pigment loss, he has been viewed as so far removed from his race, people joke he's no longer a member.


A recent commentary by Newsday columnist Sheryl McCarthy, who is black, described Jackson as "the first celebrity to physically transform himself from a black person to a Caucasian, or a facsimile of one." Aaron McGruder's comic strip "The Boondocks" regularly pillories Jackson, for example, and comedian Red Buttons (news) once joked: "Only in America can a poor black boy grow up to be a rich white woman."


But it seems that black folks can always come home again.


"Has Michael lived a black existence? The answer is no. (But) look at O.J.," Roland Martin said. "O.J. Simpson had less a relationship with the black community than Michael Jackson, but you still saw a kind of 'circle the wagons.'"





"This is sort of a tribal type of mentality that happens whether you're black or you're Hispanic or you're a police officer," he said.

Yet in many ways, Jackson hasn't been that far removed — at the BET Awards earlier this year, he got a standing ovation when he paid tribute to James Brown (news).

Whether he looks black or not, Grammy-winner Alicia Keys (news) notes, "He IS. No matter what, he is, and he's like a success story."

"He's been through a lot of stuff, and we've all been through a lot of stuff, and he's made it in a lot of ways," Keys said. "People look at him and have hope, like you can make it."

And perhaps, Roland Martin says, that's why some blacks take it so personally when they see Jackson being led away in handcuffs.

"African-Americans think that we have to protect our own," he said, "because that could happen to me."

Steeltrap 11-28-2003 01:53 AM

We are the most forgiving people
 
In cases of people like Wacko Jacko and Ohhhjjjenthal. :rolleyes:

I think the only time that we don't forgive is when the person is known as an aggressive "basher" of other blacks, sort of on the order of Clarence Thomas.

Honeykiss1974 11-28-2003 09:25 AM

Dag! One vigil and a visit from Jesse and now the media reports that blacks support Michael Jackson? :rolleyes:

I guess :o

Love_Spell_6 11-28-2003 10:45 AM

Re: We are the most forgiving people
 
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Originally posted by Steeltrap
In cases of people like Wacko Jacko and Ohhhjjjenthal. :rolleyes:

I think the only time that we don't forgive is when the person is known as an aggressive "basher" of other blacks, sort of on the order of Clarence Thomas.

In other words..."we" forgive people that think like us??

CrimsonTide4 11-28-2003 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Dag! One vigil and a visit from Jesse and now the media reports that blacks support Michael Jackson? :rolleyes:

I guess :o

Who had a vigil?!?!?!!??! Not me!! Shiiiiiiiiii I got bigger fish to fry and Michael, innocent or guilty, is not using his COMMON SENSE!! Help the children but don't sleep with them or give folks reason to suspect that you are.

And I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but when is Mike gonna help Ray Ray, Monique, Dejanem. :confused: :confused:

Steeltrap 11-28-2003 11:56 AM

Re: Re: We are the most forgiving people
 
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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
In other words..."we" forgive people that think like us??
Some do. I was simply making an observation. I am no fan of any of the three men I mentioned.


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