Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1568222)

Yes we are taught how to "get rid of" 'nalia that can't be passed down and so forth. That has never stopped 'nalia from showing up at Goodwills and at homeless shelters.

Regarding getting stuff from people who wear them. That works better in theory than in practice. Most of us haven't been undergrads in years so our interactions with people are different. A kid doesn't have to give you that KAPsi jacket. In fact, no one has to give you anything. I know NPHCers who used to carry white tshirts around in case they ran into a nonmember wearing letters. Years later, those NPHCers don't care as much--unless they don't have a life. If nonmembers and perps are understanding and able to relinquish the 'nalia, they will hand over the stuff. If they don't want to for whatever reason, move on as to not have an assault change. I still know Greeks who will inflict physical harm over such things. Those are folks with nothing to lose apparently.

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1568226)

I knew this guy (NPHC) who bragged about beating up this guy who had his letters on. But, he went to jail as a result. That is craziness!

I do not have time, nor do I want, to police letters. I can not imagine going to jail over something like that. Even if some perp had on my letters, it means nothing that they are wearing them if they have not learned the meaning behind the letters, and other AKA symbols. If they have not worked hard for their letters. I do not mean pledging, but if they have not worked at 5am at the soup kitchen, in the cold at Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure, if they have not worked to be sisterly......it is trival that they want to perp. It may as well be just a pretty shirt, because I AM NOT going to JAIL for beating up a perp!:)

Originally Posted by kellybell (Post 1568228)

For sure, dstchaos...I know what goes on at my school isn't the same everywhere. I just wanted to point out that does happen on campuses where that is perceived as "normal," whether it's appropriate or not :/

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1568229)

We already know the nonviolent procedure for dealing with perps. :)

Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1568464)

What is interesting is that some people think that non-Greeks wearing their letters make their org look bad..

Wouldn't you think that physically attacking someone over a t-shirt is making your org look bad, too?

Not saying that we should just let anyone wear our letters, but you'd think people would realize this...

Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1568508)

I understand what you are saying and if I see a homeless person wearing our 'nalia, I say shame in usfor making it accessible. But if I see someone who is obviously perping then I say shame on them and the vendor who sold it to them.

The NPHC has licensed vendors that we are only to buy from. But there are others out there who don't want to pay the licensing fee who will sell to anybody.

While I wouldn't tear off anyone's shirt, etc. I would ask them who they purchased it from and when and report it to our HQ. I would also tell the perp it is not nice to fool mother nature.

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1568566)

Would a licensed vendor really prohibit someone else from purchasing 'nalia? I don't think it's in their rules to restrict who they sell the products to, unless it's a badge of some sort.

I mean, the Greek store I went to in STL had a ton of NPHC stuff (and I know they're licensed for the NPC stuff at least), and I don't know that they would have stopped me from buying any of it. And if asked I suspect a small lie would cover everything.

Originally Posted by fantASTic (Post 1568589)

Just what I was thinking...can they really tell if you're a member or not?